John Byrne
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Simple Yes i know ALL the facts and agree with the strike or NO i don't agree with the strikes.
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Do you support the Posties striking?
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John Byrne
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The poll on the tv just now was
Yes 45%
No 55%
It will be interesting to see what happens on here...although i think i already know.
Yes 45%
No 55%
It will be interesting to see what happens on here...although i think i already know.
If I say I agree with them, and support them to the hilt, do you think they would mind dropping MY f***ing POST ROUND as a thank you?
Mrs Coach
aka Jesus H. Woman
No, I dont know the facts, I'm sure they have good reasons to disrupt the post, but modern society now depends on the postal service, so as such it shouldn't be disrupted.
The strike could not have come at a more inconvenient time for me, I desperately need to get my hands on my career development loan but can't until the bank send some things to me. So mainly for this selfish reason that it's costing me quite a lot of money, I do not agree with the strike.
Scoffers
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The basic problem, as I understand it, is that the Post Office is running at a loss. They are having to compete in an increasingly competitive market place, and no longer have the luxury of controlling the market.
As a result, they need to make cutbacks to protect the business and remain competitive, of course, that means Joe Postman will lose out big time, but a more competitive market gives the rest of us more choice, and should keep prices down. You can't have it both ways.
As a result, they need to make cutbacks to protect the business and remain competitive, of course, that means Joe Postman will lose out big time, but a more competitive market gives the rest of us more choice, and should keep prices down. You can't have it both ways.
Nemesis
SERIOUSLY!
Doesn't that competitive marketplace give us the posties delivering mail for their competitors? I get loads of stuff with DHL Mail, TNT, etc., on the envelopes. 'Posted' in the UK too. Seems to me that the competition does the easy, cost effective bit (bulk collections) and leaves the loss making bit to the post office (the delivery).
Barrel of Fun
Abort, retry, fail
WHat exactly has happened to the pension scheme? I am sure it is buried somewhere in the countless other threads. CWU seems to skirt around the issue on their website.
Aside from that, are there any figures for the amount of junk mail sent? I would imagine that is a huge source of income for the RM.
Aside from that, are there any figures for the amount of junk mail sent? I would imagine that is a huge source of income for the RM.
Is it though? More mail is delivered than ever before isn't it?
BTW, I also support the mail workers.
It seems that they are in a negotiation dispute over the "contract of employment". the bosses want to tear up the old one and replace it by a more flexible one, which means they management can bully the workers more. Stand up to bullies, I say!
Buzzer
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- Oct 1, 2006
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Yes, I think it is in decline as an entity. As Empire pointed out, the really profitable bits are being farmed out leaving the RM with the unsexy job of delivering mail to all communities and a not small problem of trying to fund the pension scheme of existing and retired posties. Who'd want to take either of those jobs over?
Expect outsourcing to some tosspot organisation like Capita who pay minimum wage to east europeans to deliver mail twice or three times weekly in urban and suburban areas and once or twice a week to rural communities. The workers being offered the bare minimum of job security with a very much reduced defined contribution pension scheme rather than the current final salary.
The Government has made it quite clear that they don't support the posties and that they are giving RM just enough rope to hang themselves.
All very similar to what happened with the railways.
John Byrne
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SPOT ON
RM makes £3 million per door to door contract, pizza menus, flat roof repair etc.
There is a ceiling of 3 per week, for which we get 1.67p each. (my route is 500 delivery points so about £25 a week extra). Although I am not allowed to prepare these in 'work' time.
One of the strings attached is having this ceiling removed, so you will be recieving 5-8 (with horror stories of up to 11), still no prep time in work, and a ceiling placed on the amount we earn, that will remain @ 3 items.
And people wonder why we think we are being royally shafted.
smudge
Up the Albion!
Crozier is well happy for the posties to strike. Makes them look like the bad boys.
We all know you're the cock though Crozier.
Contracts & pension agreements mean nothing to that mob.
We all know you're the cock though Crozier.
Contracts & pension agreements mean nothing to that mob.
The Large One
Who's Next?
The Royal Mail has already done that years ago. Nothing the posties do can make it worse now.
I support the posties. I wish I didn't have to because having no post can be inconvenient, especially for me. However, this is a minor consideration in comparison to the future livelihoods of 40,000 working men and women.
Nibble
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Suport them. who gives a f*** if a bit of post you needed didn't get through. As far as I can see the world hasn't stopped spinning because you lot didn't get a bit of post. They are being bullied and threatened with job cuts while the chairmen give themselves £350,000 bonuses.