[Albion] Do we now have a fecking Entitled fanbase?

[vagabond]

Your not sounding so confident now don’t worry plenty have backed the wrong horse before.

I’m capable of looking at the big picture and all the qualities that Graham Potter is bringing to the club whilst acknowledging potential weaknesses which he can improve on. I assess these and decide accordingly.

So in your mind you have to think “Potter is amazing, perfect” or “Potter is useless and shit”? What a bizarre point of view. You can have a more nuanced perspective than that.

 

[crookie]

I’m capable of looking at the big picture and all the qualities that Graham Potter is bringing to the club whilst acknowledging potential weaknesses which he can improve on. I assess these and decide accordingly.

So in your mind you have to think “Potter is amazing, perfect” or “Potter is useless and shit”? What a bizarre point of view. You can have a more nuanced perspective than that.

For sure, up till a couple of weeks ago I was totally team Potter. I'm having some doubts now because of performances/selections recent weeks. I really hope he is the man to turn things around and we start to see a better run of results. If some people want him gone now, fair enough, too early for me to reach that judgement, but I respect that. Same as those who think we should stick with him whatever. I think our club is strong enough to progress whether or not we stick with Potter. He certainly has potential, but he's very far from being infallible or immune to criticism

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[chaileyjem]

I really hope things change and we manage to get out of it, it would be nice to win one in three or four a few draws and have a nice relaxing PL season. Newcastle seem to manage it season after season.

Well not every season. They've been relegated twice in the last 11 years in 2008/9 and 2015/16 and were just outside relegation - 16th in 2012/13, 15th in 2014/15 in that period.
Few clubs do . Ask Bolton, Blackpool and Sunderland. All in the top 8 of the Premier League table 2011 - only ten years ago...

 

[Lethargic]

For sure, up till a couple of weeks ago I was totally team Potter. I'm having some doubts now because of performances/selections recent weeks. I really hope he is the man to turn things around and we start to see a better run of results. If some people want him gone now, fair enough, too early for me to reach that judgement, but I respect that. Same as those who think we should stick with him whatever. I think our club is strong enough to progress whether or not we stick with Potter. He certainly has potential, but he's very far from being infallible or immune to criticism

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That pretty much sums up my view but time is running out fast for a turn around. It is rather frustrating that many on here see it as black and white, in or out problem, I think our problems are more complex no one issue is 100% responsible it involving manager, players, coaching, recruitment etc but the one thing that can't change this shite are the fans, we care and watch in frustration.

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[Icy Gull]

Don’t know about you lot but I DEMAND a win today

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

He got 2 more points than we'd managed 2 years earlier. After blowing another £70m on top of an established squad and having a 3 month gap in the middle of the season to sort our mess out. It's so lame that it's being trotted out on virtually every club/ manager communication at the minute. It was only our 3rd season in the Prem, but you'd think he'd beaten Usain Bolt in the 100m

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Yes and this what really bugs me. Potter is doing okay, nothing more, nothing less.

I think those who are very pro Potter, need to reflect on the above, and the fact that we appear to be going backwards this season (at the moment).

He’s not a brilliant manager, but he’s certainly not a bad one either.


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[CaptainDaveUK]

Don’t know about you lot but I DEMAND a win today

A win and clean sheet is exactly what we need today. UTA.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Yes and this what really bugs me. Potter is doing okay, nothing more, nothing less.

I think those who are very pro Potter, need to reflect on the above, and the fact that we appear to be going backwards this season (at the moment).

He’s not a brilliant manager, but he’s certainly not a bad one either.


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Indeed. I may have misunderstood but I assume from the above that you are not infavour of sacking him, then? I don't want him sacked (at the moment) and maybe that makes me very pro Potter, but I wouldn't say he's exceeded expectations. Yet.

I come from an odd camp, perhaps, in that I think good managers are few and far between. There are quite a few who can squeeze a bit of a tune out of their instrument, but most of them eventually play too many bum notes and get the boot. A lot of 'success' is about the right fit at the right time. Over the next few weeks Tony (for it is he) may decide Potter is no longer the right fit. It happened to Wenger, Maureen, Clough.....only Sir Alex comes out of the analysis smelling of roses. I seem to recall he was *that* close to getting he boot . . . . five years into his tenure having not met expectations.

Let's see what sort of tune Potter can squeeze out of what we have.....

Let's hope it's better than this:

https://youtu.be/adU0q7BDb2o

Spooky, she was playing at Swansea . . . .

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Indeed. I may have misunderstood but I assume from the above that you are not infavour of sacking him, then? I don't want him sacked (at the moment) and maybe that makes me very pro Potter, but I wouldn't say he's exceeded expectations. Yet.

I come from an odd camp, perhaps, in that I think good managers are few and far between. There are quite a few who can squeeze a bit of a tune out of their instrument, but most of them eventually play too many bum notes and get the boot. A lot of 'success' is about the right fit at the right time. Over the next few weeks Tony (for it is he) may decide Potter is no longer the right fit. It happened to Wenger, Maureen, Clough.....only Sir Alex comes out of the analysis smelling of roses. I seem to recall he was *that* close to getting he boot . . . . five years into his tenure having not met expectations.

Let's see what sort of tune Potter can squeeze out of what we have.....

Let's hope it's better than this:

https://youtu.be/adU0q7BDb2o

Spooky, she was playing at Swansea . . . .

[emoji2]

No, I don’t want him sacked, (but then I didn’t want Hughton out either).

I think he made a dog’s dinner of the Arsenal game, but we all make mistakes......

There is no point hiring and firing, I think I said give him until October/November if not in the top 10 of championship. (Massive assumption of course that we go down).


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[b.w.2.]

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No, I don’t want him sacked, (but then I didn’t want Hughton out either).

I think he made a dog’s dinner of the Arsenal game, but we all make mistakes......

There is no point hiring and firing, I think I said give him until October/November if not in the top 10 of championship. (Massive assumption of course that we go down).


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Ridiculous assumption


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[chaileyjem]

I think anyone that answered “ Nope we should be doing better “ maybe like myself looked back at the recent results against Fulham and especially Sheffield United and thought yes.
We haven’t managed to beat any team below us in the PL this season, and obviously only just nicked a draw against Sheffield Utd.

Conversely Arsenal are the only team in the bottom 10 we've actually lost to.
Man Utd, Leicester, Spurs, Everton, Southampton, and Chelsea all in the top 10 being our defeats.
Wolves are currently 13th.

 

[chaileyjem]

He got 2 more points than we'd managed 2 years earlier. After blowing another £70m on top of an established squad and having a 3 month gap in the middle of the season to sort our mess out. It's so lame that it's being trotted out on virtually every club/ manager communication at the minute. It was only our 3rd season in the Prem, but you'd think he'd beaten Usain Bolt in the 100m

Not sure anyone is getting *too* overexcited about it but keeping a club safely in the Premier League in your first full season at that level - given our wage bill - is still an achievement.

 

[e77]

Should we be doing better? Yes

Should we be doing much better? Bearing in mind the player budget and how much we spent in the Summer not really.

Not unfair for anyone to suggest that with some slightly better defending and finishing we could have somewhere in the region of 5 more points which puts us only a couple of places up but with a cushion to the bottom three. We haven't invested enough to go much higher than that (although people will point out the likes of Burnley have done so previously).

 

[NorthstandRacoon]

Wrong.

Tony Bloom has never said we’re going for a top 10 finish this season.

It’s been stated as a long term goal.

Alright mate, chill out. Either way, he said it and it's clearly gone to shit. Wen should not be facing relegation this season, if that is our long term target.

 

[wellquickwoody]

All I am saying is that if we go down it does not automatically make the "potter is out of his depth and has lost it" "March is shit" "burn is shit" etc reactions correct. I would also say many of those are knee jerk reactions to a loss instead of taking time and actually looking at the game.

So with your rose tinted spectacles, relegation is not failure?

 

[trueblue]

So with your rose tinted spectacles, relegation is not failure?

With our squad, relegation would be performing about one place below where we should be. So if we do go down but show fight and promise for the future, ‘failure’ would be a very harsh description.

 

[trueblue]

Not sure anyone is getting *too* overexcited about it but keeping a club safely in the Premier League in your first full season at that level - given our wage bill - is still an achievement.

Doing that - plus changing to an attractive style and freshening up the squad - is a massive achievement.

 

[Lenny Rider]

With our squad, relegation would be performing about one place below where we should be. So if we do go down but show fight and promise for the future, ‘failure’ would be a very harsh description.

But Hughton was sacked and GP was bought in to take us to the next level, this is arguably the best group of players ever assembled in the clubs history, so by the very fact we haven’t gone to the next level is that not failure in itself?

 

[chaileyjem]

But Hughton was sacked and GP was bought in to take us to the next level, this is arguably the best group of players ever assembled in the clubs history, so by the very fact we haven’t gone to the next level is that not failure in itself?

Last season was an improvement - and this season has 21 games to go. Some will argue they’ve seen enough and the next level (top 10 ? ) should be there within 18 months. Fair enough.

I think it’s premature .

 

[vagabond]

Alright mate, chill out. Either way, he said it and it's clearly gone to shit. Wen should not be facing relegation this season, if that is our long term target.

I’m completely chilled out buddy.

But just pointing out the top 10 target is a LONG TERM goal. Not this season, or necessarily next. And relegation may happen at some point, as it has for nearly every team in this league.