[Politics] Do we need a General Strike?

[beorhthelm]

Excuse my ignorance, but how can a generic be more expensive in the US?

well exactly, it doesnt make sense. but packet that would cost £1 or less here can be $10-20 there.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

well exactly, it doesnt make sense. but packet that would cost £1 or less here can be $10-20 there.

Weird.

One thing I find really odd in the US is they have adverts for prescription meds. I’m all for awareness but adverts isn’t the way in my opinion. I guess some prime time tv placement must cost and be factored into the cost of meds.

 

[chickens]

Below the evidence that strikes are effective where other measures aren’t:

Factbox: Pay increases reached by UK workers following strike action

Britain has faced industrial action across a range of industries over the last few months as workers struggling with double-digit inflation resort to walk outs to demand better pay and working conditions.

www.reuters.com

 

[Badger]

Weird.

One thing I find really odd in the US is they have adverts for prescription meds. I’m all for awareness but adverts isn’t the way in my opinion. I guess some prime time tv placement must cost and be factored into the cost of meds.

It's even more odd in Canada. They're allowed to have adverts for prescription meds, BUT they're not allowed to say what it is for. So, you see these ridiculous adverts where they have people saying how great this drug is, then it just says "ask your doctor about xxx". They can't even hint at what it is trying to cure.

 

[WATFORD zero]

It's even more odd in Canada. They're allowed to have adverts for prescription meds, BUT they're not allowed to say what it is for. So, you see these ridiculous adverts where they have people saying how great this drug is, then it just says "ask your doctor about xxx". They can't even hint at what it is trying to cure.

Have I understood this right ?

A successful advertising campaign is one that gets people to hassle their doctor to prescribe them drugs even though they don't know what they are intended to cure

 

[Badger]

Have I understood this right ?

A successful advertising campaign is one that gets people to hassle their doctor to prescribe them drugs even though they don't know what they are intended to cure

I think the idea is to get people to search for the product on Google. I'm not sure how often that translates to people pestering their doctor about it. It must work to some extent, otherwise they wouldn't bother. I do find it a bit strange in a country with free public healthcare though. I can only assume they are US drug companies trying to push their overpriced products to the Canadian market.

And don't get me started on the price of non-prescription drugs in Canada...

 

[beorhthelm]

positive news from Scotland where nurses reported accepted 7.5% rise. hopefully that will become the benchmark for rest of UK and they can settle this a bit quicker.

 

[portslade seagull]

BBC news reported that Labour admitted they wouldn't be able to meet the pay demands if in power but they would talk about it. They like stoking the fire though

 

[The Clamp]

BBC news reported that Labour admitted they wouldn't be able to meet the pay demands if in power but they would talk about it. They like stoking the fire though

Labour would negotiate. That’s the point.

What Tory’s do is refuse to engage, allow the strikes to happen and then stir up public hatred toward the people striking. Divide and conquer. It’s how they operate. And they’ll keep operating like that because… people believe it.

Still, let’s point the finger at a party that hasn’t been in power for 13 years. They’re bound to be to blame

 

[WATFORD zero]

BBC news reported that Labour admitted they wouldn't be able to meet the pay demands if in power but they would talk about it. They like stoking the fire though

My favourite post of the day, the month and quite possibly the year

Let's hope to God they don't get rid of our current Government who are doing such a fine job for the working people of Great Britain. Because that Labour lot are red, probably communist and almost certainly paid by the Russians, aren't they.

Much as I love a bit of rose tinted bollocks, as much as the next old git, I'm off to dinner, fill yer boots

 

[Bodian]

Labour would negotiate. That’s the point.

What Tory’s do is refuse to engage, allow the strikes to happen and then stir up public hatred toward the people striking. Divide and conquer. It’s how they operate. And they’ll keep operating like that because… people believe it.

Still, let’s point the finger at a party that hasn’t been in power for 13 years. They’re bound to be to blame

Isn't it Corbyn's fault?

 

[The Clamp]

Isn't it Corbyn's fault?

Ramsey MacDonald.

 

[St Leonards Seagull]

Labour would negotiate. That’s the point.

What Tory’s do is refuse to engage, allow the strikes to happen and then stir up public hatred toward the people striking. Divide and conquer. It’s how they operate. And they’ll keep operating like that because… people believe it.

Still, let’s point the finger at a party that hasn’t been in power for 13 years. They’re bound to be to blame

Yeah, Barclay was on the TV this morning saying if they give nurses increased pay how do they clear the backlog. Given the number of nurses leaving the NHS or thinking of leaving in the near future, I’d have thought the first thing you’d need to look at when trying to clear the backlog is to ensure staffing is sustainable and safe.
It’s going to be another convenient excuse, when the backlog hasn’t been addressed.

 

[beorhthelm]

BBC news reported that Labour admitted they wouldn't be able to meet the pay demands if in power but they would talk about it. They like stoking the fire though

heard Streeting saying this, thought i mis-heard. he seems to be saying he would talk, but no improved pay? does sound like stoking a fire, though i'm often dismayed why ministers wont simply give the unions the audience they think so important.

elsewhere Unite union has accepted offer relating to Network Rail workers. small number represented but interesting. think theres a TSSA ballot due result today.

 

[chickens]

And here’s Peston explaining why public sector workers in particular are so hacked off:

https://birdsite.wilde.cloud/users/peston/statuses/1602575987404849152

 

[The Clamp]

Perhaps we should go out and bang pots and applaud our essential workers again? It seemed to make Brits feel better?

Of course when they ask for fair pay, they can all f*** off right?

Weren’t these greedy fuckers satisfied with being clapped once a week while they were out there risking their and their families lives while most people were getting paid to sit at home and post their exercise routines on Facebook and pretend home-schooling was hard work?


How dare they inconvenience us!!!

 

[banjo]

Love this image

 

[beorhthelm]

TSSA have accept deal in the Network Rail dispute.

 

[Triggaaar]

More to it than that, see my other post.
Your link confirms that
“We’re defending our profession and our patients. We’ve had enough of being taken for granted and being unable to provide the care patients deserve”.

Sure, but if their pay demands are met, they'll go back to work.

If NHS staff were paid enough, it would be easier to recruit and keep staff, so that those left aren't overburdened.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The Marsh Family have reworded Good King Wenceslas for the strikers.