Dick Knight Out Bollocks

[Deleted member 2719]

I fail to see the point in asking DK to step down.

If the supporters think he is doing such a bad job that he should be asked, then what exactly has he done wrong?

He brought us back to Brighton

He negotiated with the council to give us land at Falmer for a stadium

He negotiated to get rid of ecovert

He brought in managers we wouldnt have got anywhere near in the past

Micky Adams
Stevie Coppel
Peter Taylor
Mark McGhee

He persuaded the likes of Norman Cooke and The Blooms to invest in the club with absolutely no assets to back their investment.

He has overseen promotions, back to back Championships ( REMEMBER THEM OH YEA OF SHORT MEMORIES), relegations accepted. A play off final at Cardiff!!!!

He has overseen the club playing in the second tier of the national league on crowds of 6000 with no monies for investment.

He accepted the calls of supporters, and spent money on ground improvements to 9000 spectators when that money was not available. Now the same people who whinged they could not get tickets dont go anyway! There is another excuse - Oh the football is shit.....what will be the next excuse? Oh the grass is too green?

Now because we are not having the best of seasons, the club is on its arse, people ( a lot of who do not even go these days) are demanding he goes......well there is one for gratitude

Do people really think the current management have not been out and about trying to get players in? If they havent what about this Arsenal lad, Bowditch, Whing?...they didnt just phone up and say can I come to Brighton!

I am not happy with the crap we are being served up as football , however I do not for 1 minute believe it is Dick Knghts Fault. In fact I would go 1 step further and say its actaully in spite of his efforts we are where we are.


If we had had money and the Falmer application had not gone the way it is, then there would have been no reason for Coppell to have gone, sidwell to have gone, Ingmarrson to have gone, Zamora to have gone......you see. Its not DK's fault

Only one mistake for me MM but he readdressed that one so he is the messiah.

 

[ac gull]

we had 7,999 for the home game against Southampton at end of last season - highest gate at Withdean

 

[Dave the OAP]

we had 7,999 for the home game against Southampton at end of last season - highest gate at Withdean

was the new stands open for that game?

If so, that is a more worrying statistic in that it would have been one of the biggest games we played last year at home, yet we were still 1000 short

 

[British Bulldog]

was the new stands open for that game?

Yes.

 

[Parson Henry]

Get him out. I, for one, expected to be challenging for European competition by now. Look at Colchester aren't they just poised on attendances les than ours!

 

[Seagullible]

I've always stated that even with Falmer we would still only get around 8k per game in this position, quite where people think the missing thousands will come from is beyond me - since 87 when i've been watching the albion crowds have generally average at no higher than 9k even the season we made the playoffs at wembley.

sorry but from that time, there were people boycotting due to Barry LLoyd, then the big slump started as we heading downwards towards the sale of the Goldstone. The lack of a nice, new ground since then has kept people away. Given a new stadium, attendances will obviously start high as poeple want to go there. If the club perform, the attendances will stay around the 18k mark, if we struggle, they will drop but I honestly can't see that happening

 

[Mendoza]

I think people have to ask WHO, in their right mind, wants to take over from DK? I can't exactly see queues of suitors with chequebooks in their hands!!!

we have people that are putting more money in than knight at the moment, so there are people that will take over, and with money

knight has the club at heart, even if he does support arsenal, he's done a lot for this club, maybe he is in a falmer one track mind, and cannot see an alternative which could be his downfall. i am happy for him to be in charge, and it was good to see him at the ressie game last wednesday

 

[Yorkie]

we have people that are putting more money in than knight at the moment, so there are people that will take over, and with money

From what I have gathered the Blooms don't want control although they are prepared to put money in (on their own terms dictating who the manager should be)
I'm not happy at that scenario one bit.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

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I just couldn't recall the exact attendances as to wether we could have fitted everyone in the normal pre extra seat capacity.

Matches in the last three seasons with a crowd of more than 6,500:-

2006 May Sat 8 15:00 H Southampton FLC L 7,999
2006 Jul Mon 17 15:00 H Sheffield Wed FLC L 7,573
2006 Jan Sat 14 15:00 H Leeds United FLC W 7,415
2005 Dec Mon 26 13:00 H QPR FLC W 7,341
2005 Nov Sun 20 13:30 H Crystal Palace FLC L 7,273
2006 Feb Sat 11 15:00 H Leicester City FLC L 7,187
2006 Mar Sat 25 15:00 H Luton Town FLC D 7,139
2005 Dec Fri 16 19:45 H Hull City FLC W 6,929
2005 Oct Sat 29 15:00 H Ipswich Town FLC D 6,867
2005 Nov Sat 26 15:00 H Derby County FLC D 6,855
2005 May Sun 8 13:00 H Ipswich Town FLC D 6,848
2005 Dec Sat 31 13:00 H Millwall FLC L 6,847
2005 Aug Sat 23 15:00 H West Ham FLC D 6,819
2004 Sep Tue 14 19:45 H Wolves FLC L 6,804
2006 Oct Sat 12 15:00 H Brentford FL1 D 6,745
2006 Jan Sat 7 15:00 H Coventry City FACP L 6,734
2004 Oct Sat 23 15:00 H Leeds United FLC W 6,716
2005 Jan Sat 22 15:00 H Nottm Forest FLC D 6,704
2005 Sep Tue 9 19:45 H Reading FLC L 6,676
2006 Feb Sat 18 15:00 H Watford FLC L 6,658
2005 Feb Sat 19 15:00 H Sunderland FLC W 6,647
2006 Sep Tue 8 19:45 H Gillingham FL1 W 6,643
2005 Nov Tue 1 19:45 H Wolves FLC D 6,642
2005 Jun Sat 9 15:00 H Leicester City FLC D 6,638
2005 Oct Sat 1 15:00 H Norwich City FLC L 6,624
2004 Sep Sat 18 15:00 H QPR FLC L 6,612
2005 Feb Sat 26 15:00 H Millwall FLC W 6,608
2005 Feb Sat 5 15:00 H Derby County FLC L 6,587
2006 Dec Tue 26 15:00 H Yeovil Town FL1 L 6,554
2005 Sep Tue 13 19:45 H Sheffield Utd FLC L 6,553
2005 Sep Sat 17 15:00 H Coventry City FLC D 6,529

 

[Barrel of Fun]

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Matches in the last three seasons with a crowd of more than 6,500:-

2006 May Sat 8 15:00 H Southampton FLC L 7,999

Goring, if you didn't turn up to this game, then it is entirely your fault that History books were not rewritten and we didn't break the 8,000 barrier mark for the first time in nearly 9 years.

 

[British Bulldog]

I fail to see the point in asking DK to step down.

If the supporters think he is doing such a bad job that he should be asked, then what exactly has he done wrong?

He brought us back to Brighton

He negotiated with the council to give us land at Falmer for a stadium

He negotiated to get rid of ecovert

He brought in managers we wouldnt have got anywhere near in the past

Micky Adams
Stevie Coppel
Peter Taylor
Mark McGhee

He persuaded the likes of Norman Cooke and The Blooms to invest in the club with absolutely no assets to back their investment.

He has overseen promotions, back to back Championships ( REMEMBER THEM OH YEA OF SHORT MEMORIES), relegations accepted. A play off final at Cardiff!!!!

He has overseen the club playing in the second tier of the national league on crowds of 6000 with no monies for investment.

He accepted the calls of supporters, and spent money on ground improvements to 9000 spectators when that money was not available. Now the same people who whinged they could not get tickets dont go anyway! There is another excuse - Oh the football is shit.....what will be the next excuse? Oh the grass is too green?

Now because we are not having the best of seasons, the club is on its arse, people ( a lot of who do not even go these days) are demanding he goes......well there is one for gratitude

Do people really think the current management have not been out and about trying to get players in? If they havent what about this Arsenal lad, Bowditch, Whing?...they didnt just phone up and say can I come to Brighton!

I am not happy with the crap we are being served up as football , however I do not for 1 minute believe it is Dick Knghts Fault. In fact I would go 1 step further and say its actaully in spite of his efforts we are where we are.


If we had had money and the Falmer application had not gone the way it is, then there would have been no reason for Coppell to have gone, sidwell to have gone, Ingmarrson to have gone, Zamora to have gone......you see. Its not DK's fault

I agree with most of what your saying there DTG except the bits about not having the best of seasons and being served up crap football. Ok we could be a bit higher up the league but i'm still confident we will finish a comfortable mid table, And a lot of fans predicted we would flirt with the play off's and relegation but finish mid table so we are on course for that anyway. We made it to the 3rd round of the fa cup including the biggest win i've ever seen in all the years i've been supporting the Albion. On top of that we're in the southern semi final of the JPT and in with a real shout of making the final if we beat Bristol City so I would class that as a fairly good season so far. As for the football being crap I would rather look at it as being a bit inconsistant, Too many fans seem to only remember the bad games in the season and forget some of the games where we have torn teams apart and played some of the best football witnessed for a few years.

 

[Yorkie]

That is the whole problem of having youngsters in the first team. They are bound to be inconsistent. They have a lot to learn and are all learning together. Sometimes they have games where it all comes together and sometimes it all goes wrong.

 

[Seagullible]

That is the whole problem of having youngsters in the first team. They are bound to be inconsistent. They have a lot to learn and are all learning together. Sometimes they have games where it all comes together and sometimes it all goes wrong.

I am so looking forward to the next two/three seasons when these youngsters can be classed as experienced pros at the ages of 21/22 with Hammond leading them as a near veteran aged 25! We do need a couple of older heads (meaning around 29-31) to help this season and next but beyond that we will be fine by keeping this lot together and helping them develope

 

[Beach Hut]

That is the whole problem of having youngsters in the first team. They are bound to be inconsistent. They have a lot to learn and are all learning together. Sometimes they have games where it all comes together and sometimes it all goes wrong.

Reasonable point but it looks like it is all going wrong at present.

Onwards and upwards, hopefully the tide will turn at Chesterfield.

 

[Dave the OAP]

I am so looking forward to the next two/three seasons when these youngsters can be classed as experienced pros at the ages of 21/22 with Hammond leading them as a near veteran aged 25! We do need a couple of older heads (meaning around 29-31) to help this season and next but beyond that we will be fine by keeping this lot together and helping them develope

i agree in essence what you are saying, but football is the here and now. Trevor and Chris on the phone in both reconed that we have exciting times to come, and Yes that is great. the problem is this:

If the current crop of youngsters do develop, then due to our financial position, we will not be able to hang on to them.

Secondly, all the time we are having to play them, whilst they are getting praise in some quarters, in others they are not...witness the stick Henderson and gatting are getting. In fact some jokers round me were giving Rents stick on saturday!!!

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Isn't the point of being an Albion supporter not knowing what the future might hold? It's certainly kept my interest since my first game in 1972.

At the moment, it's even more interesting than usual. Regardless of results, I get a buzz out of wondering whether players like (say) Cox, Revell, Hammond, Robinson are going to turn out to be something special ... like, for example, Steve Sidwell has. And whether they will do it for the Albion ... unlike Sidwell.

If your football is just about watching a winning side, you're taking a fairly shallow view of the game.

 

[ali jenkins]

I agree with you there DTG, i think what DK and MP are doing with the club given the finnancial situation is very good.

Not many other clubs (except mabie colchester) could run on our budget and get into the championship and stay there for a season?

KNIGHT AND PERRY IN IN IN!

 

[British Bulldog]

That is the whole problem of having youngsters in the first team. They are bound to be inconsistent. They have a lot to learn and are all learning together. Sometimes they have games where it all comes together and sometimes it all goes wrong.

Exactly, But I think too many fans expect too much from these youngsters and it's not going to happen just yet. Yes we do need to invest in a couple of seasoned pro's to help us through the lean spells like we are having at the moment but on the whole I think the youngsters have done themselves and the club proud this season.

 

[Beach Hut]

Exactly, But I think too many fans expect too much from these youngsters and it's not going to happen just yet. Yes we do need to invest in a couple of seasoned pro's to help us through the lean spells like we are having at the moment but on the whole I think the youngsters have done themselves and the club proud this season.

I think the main concern is whether the investment will happen in the 2 / 3 seasoned professionals required.

We were at this point last season and nothing happened in the transfer window and then we were relegated.

I really hope the club has learnt from last season.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Gatting has already been written off by some as sh*t and what have you... He has only made 11 starts!! I don't know, quite what people were expecting. Considering that most strikers tend to peak at 28 or so...

In an ideal world, we would be able to blood these guys playing in a team with 7 or more seasoned pro's, learning their trade gradually from the likes of Guy Butters and Paul Reid. However, that is simply not possible and they have been thrown in at the deep end. They DESERVE our support and they NEED our support.

Altogether now "Dean Wilkins' Blue and White Army"