[News] "Dianne Abbott at the darts" / Antoine Griezzman fancy dress

[Bold Seagull]

One of her old tweets ... a bit racist?

I'm definitely offended on your behalf.

 

[Buzzer]

FEMALE MPs have been subjected to 25,000 abusive messages in the last six months, with Diane Abbott being the target of more than half of them, Amnesty International revealed.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/850044/Diane-Abbott-female-MPs-Twitter-abuse-trolls

Why does she attract so much online vilification?

The Labour MP told Amnesty: “My office got flooded with communications, both by letter and by email. People sent us emails and letters full of swastikas, people sent us postcards and letters with pictures of monkeys and chimps. People sent us hundreds of emails using the word n***** - that’s the sort of response we get. It’s highly racialised and it’s also gendered because people talk about rape and they talk about my physical appearance in a way they wouldn’t talk about a man.

Perhaps this context helps explain why this whole area is highly charged?

Would she get the same level of abuse if she was male?
Would she get the same level of abuse if she was white?

I don't know the answers but I suspect the answer is probably no in both cases

And, tangentially linked, Jo Cox got murdered by a right wing nutter

As they used to say in the 60s, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem

If, like the darts punter, you're actively normalising abuse of a woman who gets more abuse that pretty much everyone else in Westminster then that shows, at the very least, very poor judgement

And in the last election just months ago, male Tory MPs received far and away the most abuse if you're going by gender. Abuse is widespread, that Amnesty report doesn't give the whole picture. It also nails the myth that Boris and his ilk are not subjected to the same level of abuse.


https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillip...bled-after-the?utm_term=.pc207QmG6#.doM6db5jk

 

[neilbard]

One of her old tweets ... a bit racist?

Was it Soduko Diane?

 

[Buzzer]

From that news article.

 

[jakarta]

One of her old tweets ... a bit racist?

Quite, she deserves to be abused because she is a demonstrably a horrible piece of work* and incompetent to boot.

She would be all of this if she was a blue eyed blonde and I would despise her equally.

*[SUB] I suggest watching a few past editions of This Week[/SUB]

 

[Bold Seagull]

And in the last election just months ago, male Tory MPs received far and away the most abuse if you're going by gender. Abuse is widespread, that Amnesty report doesn't give the whole picture. It also nails the myth that Boris and his ilk are not subjected to the same level of abuse.


https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillip...bled-after-the?utm_term=.pc207QmG6#.doM6db5jk

Well, I read that link and I think you have misrepresented its findings to be honest, as it qualifies them itself further on. Don't disagree abuse is widespread, but there is also a proportionality to importance and the type of abuse that was recorded.

 

[Buzzer]

Well, I read that link and I think you have misrepresented its findings to be honest, as it qualifies them itself further on. Don't disagree abuse is widespread, but there is also a proportionality to importance and the type of abuse that was recorded.

Of course there is but I haven't misrepresented it at all. If nothing else it shows the narrow focus of that Amnesty report give a the impression that male politicians are immune when they clearly are not. And the abuse that Abbott got compared to Johnson is directly comparable without any need for proportionality. And that is what we are are talking about specifically here.

 

[Is it PotG?]

 

[Hampster Gull]

One of her old tweets ... a bit racist?

Good post for the DA part of this thread. I don’t know her personally and she might be ok but I can’t stand the Martin Luther King jr stance in the U.K. like the one above. She removes her moral position by saying things like Finnish blue eyed nurses aren’t suited to nurse black people. Unfortunately she appears to be a racist. And her hypocritical positions, eg campaign as an MP to close private schools whilst sending her son to one puts into question her personal integrity

 

[Motogull]

Its all about context isn't it?







They needed full make up to make the jokes work.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Larry David would love this thread...

 

[JC Footy Genius]

I'm definitely offended on your behalf.

I should hope so too! On a serious note, I'm not bothered with her comment apart from the fact we all know that if a prominent white politician had said something similar about black people she would be leading the outraged baying hordes calling for their head.

 

[Bold Seagull]

outraged baying hordes calling for her head.

are they not on here already?

 

[Hampster Gull]

I should hope so too! On a serious note, I'm not bothered with her comment apart from the fact we all know that if a prominent white politician had said something similar about black people she would be leading the outraged baying hordes calling for their head.

True. And there is lots of hypocrisy from the Islington elite

 

[alfredmizen]

That you think they were criminal gangs says a lot about your ignorance on this matter.

White British people “blacking up” to disguise themselves is a practice centuries old. No doubt some of this was for nefarious purposes but the Black Act was a measure deliberately intended to further oppress the poor and restrict their freedom, to hunt in particular. This was a land grab by the aristocracy and establishment shills.

It’s a shame that people don’t understand their social history in this way because it would avoid problems caused by the hyperbole of someone dressing up at a darts contest, and others seeking to celebrate this country’s rich social history.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-38559669

That’s why I can compare both stories.......you are part of the problem.

Just making the point that Abbots balls up was the result of a medical condition, (I'm type one diabetic myself, I know how confusing the most simple things can seem, when you're hypoglycaemic) Johnsons was the result of the man being a liability, but, who did the right wing press vilify most?

I wil agree neither fills me with any confidence, but, Abbot does seem less harmful than Johnson

Certainly, if you're a British woman in an Iranian jail cell.

hahahahahaha medical condition you actually believe that bollox or are recycling it in the hope that others do ? im not disputing she is diabetic , but that wasnt the reason for her mistake (s)

 

[wellquickwoody]

Possibly, but this doesn’t excuse it.

It does for any sensibly minded people.

 

[alfredmizen]

That you think they were criminal gangs says a lot about your ignorance on this matter.

White British people “blacking up” to disguise themselves is a practice centuries old. No doubt some of this was for nefarious purposes but the Black Act was a measure deliberately intended to further oppress the poor and restrict their freedom, to hunt in particular. This was a land grab by the aristocracy and establishment shills.

It’s a shame that people don’t understand their social history in this way because it would avoid problems caused by the hyperbole of someone dressing up at a darts contest, and others seeking to celebrate this country’s rich social history.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-38559669

That’s why I can compare both stories.......you are part of the problem.

Quite, she deserves to be abused because she is a demonstrably a horrible piece of work* and incompetent to boot.

She would be all of this if she was a blue eyed blonde and I would despise her equally.

*[SUB] I suggest watching a few past editions of This Week[/SUB]

would that be a blue eyed blond nurse that she claimed shouldnt nurse black people ?

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Sorry, what's patently obvious is that Diane Abbott is the target precisely because she is black.......

IMO that's rubbish.

I see someone having a laugh at a Politian who can't add up, nothing to do with her colour.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

True. And there is lots of hypocrisy from the Islington elite

Indeed ... and from their loyal followers.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Are lefties 'snowflakes' again?
Amazing turn around. During the EDL visits, they were 'violent thugs'.

No one has ever called you a snowflake luv, many other things, but not snowflake.