Diane Abbott in fine form this morning...

[glasfryn]

anyone watching Hunt and Green on tv over last weekend might think that they will join Abbot on the dunces step

 

[Leekbrookgull]

THE

what I would love to know is where has 700b in 7 years gone
someone must have some very deep pockets

Rosie the Dog ?

 

[Leekbrookgull]

anyone watching Hunt and Green on tv over last weekend might think that they will join Abbot on the dunces step

Is Amber Rudd any better ?

 

[glasfryn]

Is Amber Rudd any better ?

no...........

 

[glasfryn]

Maybe your school has had its budget cut, but the FACT remains that overall spending on schools is at a record high. The only deception is the unions and the left telling the electorate that we can raise spending on everything and it will all be paid for by the the top 5% of earners. Lie after damned lie, JC will tell us next that he didn't support the IRA, oh hang on, he has!

have you read the tory manifesto end to end ..........actually by the time you get to the end she will have U-turned most of it

she is trying very hard to be maggy thatcher but she is not fit to shine her boots
don't get me wrong I hated her but she was a good politician and leader

 

[Lower West Stander]

I'm not even a Labour supporter, so yes. If putting things into a proper context so it can be debated properly is an issue then we can go back to childish name calling if you'd prefer?

But that is exactly what politicians do!

 

[Triggaaar]

Is that the Global crash where all the warning signs were there but they decided to ignore them an carry on spending what they didn't have ??

Yes.

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

In the first post that I quoted from you, you went on about 'unprecedented cuts in education', you do realise that more money is being spent on education than EVER before?

As a teacher I probably know rather a bit about education cuts. My school for instance is having our budget cut by £200,000 (the equivalent of 8 teachers) next year. Trust me when I tell you the cuts are very real. Whilst the amount of money in the pot for schools in England is at record levels but once you factor in rising pupil numbers, inflation and running costs, schools will have to cut approximately 8% from budgets by 2020. Spending per-pupil is massively down (the lowest it's been in 30 years) but I'm sure that's just the union spreading nasty lies...

 

[bWize]

We are not going to get out of the hole by taxing rich people (there aren't enough of them)

Maybe not "rich people" as such, but corporations are a whole different beast! Seems the U.S, France and various other countries are doing their best to cut corporation taxes down to an absolute bare minimum and give them an easy ride whilst the average person and public services get absolutely hammered!

 

[Ernest]

no...........

She's worse as she is actually in charge of the police and security of the country and she can't even add her election expenses up without being investigated

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

anyone watching Hunt and Green on tv over last weekend might think that they will join Abbot on the dunces step

Labour has Abbott, Tories have Boris Johnson.
He sneaked out while his security was asleep and turned up on Peston, he was asked the same questions as Damien Green was asked by Marr an hour earlier.
Green had a stab at some answers, while Johnson said the opposite, it was a shambles.
Cretins like Abbott are in all parties.

 

[Ernest]

I'm going into the Cliftonville tomorrow and asking what breakfast I'll get for 7p

 

[Dave the OAP]

As a teacher I probably know rather a bit about education cuts. My school for instance is having our budget cut by £200,000 (the equivalent of 8 teachers) next year. Trust me when I tell you the cuts are very real. Whilst the amount of money in the pot for schools in England is at record levels but once you factor in rising pupil numbers, inflation and running costs, schools will have to cut approximately 8% from budgets by 2020. Spending per-pupil is massively down (the lowest it's been in 30 years) but I'm sure that just the union spreading nasty lies...

It is not that far off at our school also. £185k is the figure. One thing that people don't actually realise and heaven forbid they never are faced with this, BUT the council cannot to cover the cost of statemented children. So if you have a child with special needs, you are not going to get "one to one" support and children with very special needs who cannot get into specialist schools are left to be looked after by the teacher and the SEN/TA system, as well as the other 30 kids in the class.

This is a national scandal and it is not just the tories, But the labour government under blair and brown failed to keep up with demand

And yes I do know what I am talking about being a School Governor.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

As a teacher I probably know rather a bit about education cuts. My school for instance is having our budget cut by £200,000 (the equivalent of 8 teachers) next year. Trust me when I tell you the cuts are very real. Whilst the amount of money in the pot for schools in England is at record levels but once you factor in rising pupil numbers, inflation and running costs, schools will have to cut approximately 8% from budgets by 2020. Spending per-pupil is massively down (the lowest it's been in 30 years) but I'm sure that's just the union spreading nasty lies...

You are wasting your time, brainwashed into thinking that everything that comes out of Mays mouth must be true when in fact it's probably a lie, or the total opposite is in fact the truth.
It's obvious that education is being cut they just twist the figures and think that we are all so stupid that we won't understand it.
Schools are asking for money to buy books so their kids can learn FFS.
This is kids education, they only get one shot at it and successive governments chop and change it around usually for the worst.
We should have one of the best education systems in the world and it should be tweaked to make it better.
Gove was a total arsewipe, education should be taken away from politicians, they neither have the sense or the maturity to create a world class education system.
May should hang her head in shame.

 

[wellquickwoody]

As a teacher I probably know rather a bit about education cuts. .................... Whilst the amount of money in the pot for schools in England is at record levels

So there are no cuts? Just not the increases that many would like? So your school budget is not rising as quickly as the unionised teachers would like, in that case you have to tighten your belt, just like any individual would have to do if they were unable to get the wage they want.

I do not deny that times are tough in the public sector, but I object to the lies about CUTS peddled by the left time and time again. We were all told, for those that actually listened to the speeches and political commentators, that things would be at their worst about now after that Labour note about 'the money has all gone'.

 

[Bold Seagull]

So there are no cuts? Just not the increases that many would like? So your school budget is not rising as quickly as the unionised teachers would like, in that case you have to tighten your belt, just like any individual would have to do if they were unable to get the wage they want.

I do not deny that times are tough in the public sector, but I object to the lies about CUTS peddled by the left time and time again. We were all told, for those that actually listened to the speeches and political commentators, that things would be at their worst about now after that Labour note about 'the money has all gone'.

Yeah, I listened in 2010, Osbourne said he'd have the deficit to zero by 2015 through austerity, but didn't get anywhere near it - it grew! In 2014 they said it would be in surplus by 2020, it continued to grow. Now they're saying not any surplus until 2025 just a decade off their original promise. At the same time they say they are growing the economy at a really strong rate, that economic growth is strong - so if it's strong, why do their targets continue to be missed? Or is this all just BS you are prepared to swallow?

 

[JCL - the new kid in town]

So there are no cuts? Just not the increases that many would like? So your school budget is not rising as quickly as the unionised teachers would like, in that case you have to tighten your belt, just like any individual would have to do if they were unable to get the wage they want.

I do not deny that times are tough in the public sector, but I object to the lies about CUTS peddled by the left time and time again. We were all told, for those that actually listened to the speeches and political commentators, that things would be at their worst about now after that Labour note about 'the money has all gone'.

You seem to be focusing on record levels. I can't believe people are still taken in by this wishy-washy phrase that politicians love to flaunt yet it generally means jack. Due to inflation the value of items goes up therefore more money needs to be put in to keep things at a status quo, therefore each year is likely to see record levels just by increasing the amount of spent to inflation levels.

Eg if this year i give you £100 and then next year (assuming inflation of 2%) i give you £102, i haven't given you anything thats worth anymore but you've seen an increase in £2. If this continues for 5 years then i would be giving you £110 (a new record high amount) but in actuality you're no better off yet i can say you're receiving record high payments from me

 

[Machiavelli]

So there are no cuts? Just not the increases that many would like? So your school budget is not rising as quickly as the unionised teachers would like, in that case you have to tighten your belt, just like any individual would have to do if they were unable to get the wage they want.

I do not deny that times are tough in the public sector, but I object to the lies about CUTS peddled by the left time and time again. We were all told, for those that actually listened to the speeches and political commentators, that things would be at their worst about now after that Labour note about 'the money has all gone'.

Keep up at the back. You weren't very good at school were you, and your just taking it out on educationalists now.

 

[Machiavelli]

You seem to be focusing on record levels. I can't believe people are still taken in by this wishy-washy phrase that politicians love to flaunt yet it generally means jack. Due to inflation the value of items goes up therefore more money needs to be put in to keep things at a status quo, therefore each year is likely to see record levels just by increasing the amount of spent to inflation levels.

Eg if this year i give you £100 and then next year (assuming inflation of 2%) i give you £102, i haven't given you anything thats worth anymore but you've seen an increase in £2. If this continues for 5 years then i would be giving you £110 (a new record high amount) but in actuality you're no better off yet i can say you're receiving record high payments from me

GDP was at a record level in 2016, and 2015, ...
Strong and stable economy

 

[wellquickwoody]

Yeah, I listened in 2010, Osbourne said he'd have the deficit to zero by 2015 through austerity, but didn't get anywhere near it - it grew! In 2014 they said it would be in surplus by 2020, it continued to grow. Now they're saying not any surplus until 2025 just a decade off their original promise. At the same time they say they are growing the economy at a really strong rate, that economic growth is strong - so if it's strong, why do their targets continue to be missed? Or is this all just BS you are prepared to swallow?

So it has taken longer than expected? Just because your endowment mortgage didn't perform as expected doesn't mean the debt gets written off, you do still have to pay it back. It's life, or should we just either default on our debts, or leave even bigger ones for our kids?