Nine more on top of the previous 12, leaving Wayne Rooney's Derby on -3 points, 18 point from safety.
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[Football] Derby docked nine (more) points
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HellBilly
ouch, that is not a nail in their coffin, that's a sledgehammer on the tombstone.
Surely Wayne will walk away now, horrible predicament for him, damned if he stays and probably pillared by the fans and press if he walks.
Surely Wayne will walk away now, horrible predicament for him, damned if he stays and probably pillared by the fans and press if he walks.
But a SHOE in for the Utd job after Ole.
- Jun 27, 2012
- 14,614
Its the Derby way.
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
Bye bye Rams.
Super Steve Earle
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They're lucky it's all in one season. They are getting their just desserts and even if I were a Derby fan, I could accept it's deserved. For the club, not the fans.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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It's the right decision, but I won't celebrate it. We've had points deducted whilst near the bottom of the league in our past and I didn't much like it when it happened to us.
I wonder if Liam Rosenior will get his first management role as a result of this
I wonder if Liam Rosenior will get his first management role as a result of this
Looking at Rams forums, there is still a healthy amount of Derby fans principally blaming the EFL and/or Covid-19 for this debacle. There seems to be little acknowledgment of them living beyond there means for a number of years dating back to when we were a Championship club. Morris tried to buy his way out of the Championship and ****ed it. This was documented extensively on NSC as they broke the bank for another Vydra or Lawrence. Smashing FFP rules was clearly an option if you look at the success of Bournemouth and Leicester but, they were gambling on getting promotion, Derby lost and then tried every trick in the book of creative accountancy to cheat.
The whataboutry by some Derby fans has got to this sort of level:
“The EFL are disgrace. They say that they want to protect the integrity of the league, but this has done the opposite. It means that we can pick and choose which games to put any effort into, as the chances of staying up are next to zero This means the integrity of the league is damaged, the thing they say they hold so dear.”
BBassic
I changed this.
- Jul 28, 2011
- 13,056
It would speak something to his character if he stuck through it. Yeah, it'd be a relegation on his sparse CV but in exceptional circumstances.
Not really a fan of deciding league tables off the pitch but I realise that there's not a lot of other solutions.
It does damage the integrity of the competition however, with some teams playing a demotivated Derby twice while others had to face them when they had reasons to fight.
It does damage the integrity of the competition however, with some teams playing a demotivated Derby twice while others had to face them when they had reasons to fight.
Wow.
Add match fixing to financial irregularity then and give 'em another nine points.....
See my reply to [MENTION=23795]Hugo Rune[/MENTION]
Also, this happens every season in every division. Sometimes teams play better when they're mathematically relegated. Alternatively you will be able to make the same assumption for Norwich after about February unless they buy a whole new team in the January window.
Derby, let's remind ourselves, still hold the Premier League low points record. I wonder if anyone wrote bollocks like the above during the later half of that season?
I think there is a substantial difference between falling behind due to bureaucratic decisions and performances on the pitch. Point deductions should happen at the beginning of a season, not in the middle of it.
Weststander
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Deserved. Morris cheated with FFP, repeatedly. Then the Administration, when the huge overspend on players by the swerving of FFP caught up with them.
Although the fans ultimately see a relegation, they would’ve gleefully taken a bent promotion to the EPL, Morris wasn’t get slagged off when he created that squad.
Although the fans ultimately see a relegation, they would’ve gleefully taken a bent promotion to the EPL, Morris wasn’t get slagged off when he created that squad.
Sid in the Sharknado
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Ideally, I'd like to see Derby deducted points at the beginning, middle and end of every season.
Seriously though, while obviously it'd be ideal to apply the deduction before the start of the season, once that opportunity's gone there's going to be an obvious distortion whether you do it mid season or at the end.
Terry Butcher Tribute Act
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- Aug 18, 2013
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Feel for the normal fans amongst them - Morris is a disgrace and has ruined the club
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theboybilly
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I think the Leicester City FFP scenario was largely put straight (admittedly by a LCFC fan) in another thread. It wasn't at all how it looked at the time.
Surely if it was all above board Leicester would not have agreed to pay a fine?
- Jun 27, 2012
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For Derby to stay up from here is, as you'd guess, pretty unlikely . Assuming 50points Champ safety threshold then that means they need a 65-71 point season to have any chance.
Currently they're on track for about 48-50 points with 3 wins and 9 draws from 17 games.
They'd have to step up to nearly 1.8 points a game to get close. Currently they're on 1.05 ppg.
Rumours that Rooney won't hang around if they drop to L1.
Currently they're on track for about 48-50 points with 3 wins and 9 draws from 17 games.
They'd have to step up to nearly 1.8 points a game to get close. Currently they're on 1.05 ppg.
Rumours that Rooney won't hang around if they drop to L1.