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[Albion] Deniz Undav - season long loan to Stuttgart confirmed
- Thread starter Clive Walker
- Start date
I watch a lot of the Bundesliga, I love it, it is great entertainment but is definitely not the highest technical standard and defending generally there is really not great. It is the league to go to for misfiring strikers. It’s a lot easier to score goals there than here. I would get no more excited signing a high scoring striker from the Bundesliga than I would Eredivisie or Ligue 1. In fact, I’d always look to Ligue 1 ahead of other leagues.
His overall game is not good enough for us. I would sell him and be delighted if we got over £10m for him.
His overall game is not good enough for us. I would sell him and be delighted if we got over £10m for him.
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- Nov 11, 2009
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He was just starting to come good when he was allowed to go, agree with your sentiments, its a weird one.
He definitely offers different type of option to Welbeck, Ferguson and Pedro and was good enough at this level. Hopefully we'll see him return?
Is he? Murray at 27-30 years old was very much an all-round striker. Lacked pace, sure, but his ability to bring others into play, hold the ball up, win tactical fouls, contribute defensively, lead the line as (often) the lone striker AND score 10-20 goals a season in both the Championship and the Premier League. Undav is a goalscorer (and a fine one at that) with none of the above attributes.
Not for him it wasn't. Strikers need to be playing and scoring goals, he's have been our 4th choice option this season. I bet he's loving life at the moment, and made the right decision.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Can anyone actually confirm if there’s been a good source as to if they have a buy option..? If there is then it’s out of our hands whether he comes back or not…
I know there has been some personal issues but really hope we’ve left the door open for him to return…
I know there has been some personal issues but really hope we’ve left the door open for him to return…
Agreed. My guess is that we'll try and get the best price for him that we can (I don't think his was a loan to buy deal, was it?) In an ideal world, maybe we could recall him and let Ferguson go out on loan and play regularly and get his form back, but I can't see that happening. I don't suppose Undav wants to sit out half a season back here as a third choice, and it's possible a loan wouldn't be the way ahead for Ferguson anyway - it's not the only development path to the first team (see Hinshelwood).
schmunk
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Justice
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Out of interest why do you think Ferguson is out of form? He’s a player who thrives on chances created it’s not like he’s missing sitters they just have been few and far between without the supply from Pervis, Mitoma & co.
Because he's a striker who is not scoring, and by general consensus has looked out of sorts lately.
Anyway, the supply can't have been that bad - 8 goals in the last three matches (none by Ferguson) shows that chances have been available.
fly high
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Isn't the problem he's not getting into positions to score. Doesn't seem to hold the ball up & lay it off very often, most times balls played up to him just bounce off him or he tries to turn the CH who knows he's going to do that & just nicks the ball off him. At the mo seems to lack a bit of confidence in general play & getting a lot more close attention from defenders. He has to learn to deal with this. Needs to discover Murray's way of finding space in the box to attack balls coming in not just wait on the edge to shot from there.
kelvinnewman
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- Aug 17, 2023
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Def feels like he's happier in Germany, but if there isn't buy clause the more he scores will be increasing the asking price though...
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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Re Ferguson. He's a very very young player trying to mix it with gnarled PL defenders. He'll peak in about 8 years. Maybe more. Don't worry if he has a few quiet games.
Re Undav. I liked him and thought he would come good in the PL. Though if I'm honest, I also thought that about Zeqiri, Connolly and about 6 others in the PL era. I defer to greater judges of a player if they choose to make a sale. Equally if he comes back i'll be delighted.
Re Undav. I liked him and thought he would come good in the PL. Though if I'm honest, I also thought that about Zeqiri, Connolly and about 6 others in the PL era. I defer to greater judges of a player if they choose to make a sale. Equally if he comes back i'll be delighted.
B-right-on
Living the dream
14 goals and 5 assists in 19 appearances across all competitions this season so far. Talking about being in the German Euro squad.
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Hope so. Not only increase his value for us, but I like the bloke, seems a decent fella.
Forgotten Brighton loan star tipped to 'lead the Germany line' at Euro 2024
Brighton loanee Denis Undav could be set to start for Germany at Euro 2024 following his excellent season, according to Andy Brassell. The 27-year-old completed a loan move away from the Seagulls a…
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Hope so. Not only increase his value for us, but I like the bloke, seems a decent fella.
Would be amazing to have TWO Brighton players in the Germany squad for Euro24.14 goals and 5 assists in 19 appearances across all competitions this season so far. Talking about being in the German Euro squad.
Forgotten Brighton loan star tipped to 'lead the Germany line' at Euro 2024
Brighton loanee Denis Undav could be set to start for Germany at Euro 2024 following his excellent season, according to Andy Brassell. The 27-year-old completed a loan move away from the Seagulls a…
Hope so. Not only increase his value for us, but I like the bloke, seems a decent fella.
Not Andy Naylor
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I presume he would have stayed if we hadn't had the Ansu Fati loan lined up?
Papa Lazarou
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Wasn't he also homesick?
nwgull
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Bild has previously reported that his buy option is for 18m Euro, increasing if Stuttgart qualify for Europe.