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[Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans







Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
If you want to see absolute Grade A, Top Drawer, Elite Level mong behaviour please treat yourselves to the comments on Ben White’s most recent Instagram post. Indefensible levels of arrogance, entitlement and delusion. Absolute helmets, the lot of them.

Boat owner to chief deckhand “we’ve got some English footballers and their WAGS renting the boat for a few days, so lock up the glasses and get the plastic cups out” :wink:
 




Moshe Gariani

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2005
12,202
Because there wasn't one?

Having said that, Pascal Struijk, signed from Ajax into our U23s, and younger than Ben started the last couple of games. He has done very well so far so could be the next Bielsa coached wunderkind.

This is the best news we’ve had so far and hopefully confirms that Leeds won’t come in with an offer for Ben White that Tony Bloom can’t refuse.

Having been selected at various stages through the Ajax player development system, Pascal Struijk is obviously a player with sufficient “talent”. Bielsa will be able to add advanced positional sense, physical fitness, understanding of team strategy and, crucially, nurture the necessary mental toughness needed to make it in the Premier League. Having a few extra weeks to work in, compared to the accelerated Ben White project, will make it easier for him too.
 






vagabond

Well-known member
May 17, 2019
9,804
Brighton
This is the best news we’ve had so far and hopefully confirms that Leeds won’t come in with an offer for Ben White that Tony Bloom can’t refuse.

Having been selected at various stages through the Ajax player development system, Pascal Struijk is obviously a player with sufficient “talent”. Bielsa will be able to add advanced positional sense, physical fitness, understanding of team strategy and, crucially, nurture the necessary mental toughness needed to make it in the Premier League. Having a few extra weeks to work in, compared to the accelerated Ben White project, will make it easier for him too.

Exactly, fantastic news!

I look forward to seeing Bielsa “make him” into a £30m player and one as good as Ben White. Riiiiight Leeds fans?
 


Wozza

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NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
24,375
Minteh Wonderland
Having said that, Pascal Struijk, signed from Ajax into our U23s, and younger than Ben started the last couple of games. He has done very well so far so could be the next Bielsa coached wunderkind.

Out of interest, do you think Bielsa can turn Bamford into a Premier League striker?

If he does, I might join the cult myself. :mad:
 


LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield
1. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. A player has to have certain attributes to succeed, natural ability is the non plus ultra and the experiences that have formed him at Academy Level and then in the Professional game. (With Newport County I believe?)

But yes, his time at Leeds has been life changing for him as a player. It will underpin his career for the rest of his playing life. The experience of being coached by a managerial genius, playing in a highly sophisticated tactical system, and having success at a good standard of football, just one step down from the very highest, will be the bedrock of a career that I think will include many years as an international, forming the core of the defence of a top four club.

Why would this not be so? I ask those reading to think of their own early lives, their days at school, their first steps in their careers. Are there not formative individuals and experiences that make us all what we are? So why would Ben White be different?

2. No.

Dress it up how you like sweet cheeks. You're as deluded as the illiterate morons on Twitter.

Leaning back in your chaise lounge, Noel Coward smoking jacket and cravat, chunky crystal glass with Tanqueray No.10 and a dash of tonic, slice no ice. Using italics to make your laissez faire (mais, va tu faire enculer) points. You're still talking utter bollocks.

What you're doing there (and it's not even subtle) is laying down a bullshit marker whereby any success that Ben White has in the future will (in your head) all be down to Leeds. So you can sit there, rubbing your chin while listening to shit freeform jazz and thinking "Yes..... I was right all along...... nice" when he plays for England.

It was a one year loan. He played a huge part in getting you promoted. It was part of his development AS A BRIGHTON PLAYER. "Life changing" "underpin" "bedrock of a career". :lolol::lolol::lolol:

For all your flowery language, you still don't seem to be able to understand basic facts. He was already a very good player. He has flourished at every level. He then proved he could do it at Championship level and now he has the chance to try to prove he can do it at the top, for Brighton.

That is all, nothing more and nothing less. Your "genius" manager and your newly promoted club are as relevant to Ben White as we were to Fikayo Tomori or Villa were to Tammy Abraham or Derby were to Mason Mount. Or any number of other great young players who were loaned to Championship teams.

You might have started out with a few decent points but the mask has slipped. The title of this thread is, once again, completely correct.
 




Chickenlittle

Active member
Feb 6, 2017
117
South coast
Dress it up how you like sweet cheeks. You're as deluded as the illiterate morons on Twitter.

Leaning back in your chaise lounge, Noel Coward smoking jacket and cravat, chunky crystal glass with Tanqueray No.10 and a dash of tonic, slice no ice. Using italics to make your laissez faire (mais, va tu faire enculer) points. You're still talking utter bollocks.

What you're doing there (and it's not even subtle) is laying down a bullshit marker whereby any success that Ben White has in the future will (in your head) all be down to Leeds. So you can sit there, rubbing your chin while listening to shit freeform jazz and thinking "Yes..... I was right all along...... nice" when he plays for England.

It was a one year loan. He played a huge part in getting you promoted. It was part of his development AS A BRIGHTON PLAYER. "Life changing" "underpin" "bedrock of a career". :lolol::lolol::lolol:


For all your flowery language, you still don't seem to be able to understand basic facts. He was already a very good player. He has flourished at every level. He then proved he could do it at Championship level and now he has the chance to try to prove he can do it at the top, for Brighton.

That is all, nothing more and nothing less. Your "genius" manager and your newly promoted club are as relevant to Ben White as we were to Fikayo Tomori or Villa were to Tammy Abraham or Derby were to Mason Mount. Or any number of other great young players who were loaned to Championship teams.

You might have started out with a few decent points but the mask has slipped. The title of this thread is, once again, completely correct.
👏👏👏👏👏👏

Bravo, sir!...or as Killer Whale would insist “ euge mi “
 


Killer Whale

Banned
Jul 27, 2020
213
Out of interest, do you think Bielsa can turn Bamford into a Premier League striker?

If he does, I might join the cult myself. :mad:

No I don't.

He has made him a far far better player, but he doesn't have the elite strikers' killer instinct and I don't think ever will. You can't coach that it seems to me, it is inborn.

What do you think? Do you agree that there is a finite limit to coaching? However good?

(Thinking further about it I wonder if the Bielsa ethos goes against being a top top striker full stop? It is all about playing for the team, setting up other players, dummying to take defenders out of play so a teammate can score. Bit isn't the (sorry a bit of Latin here, I know how much you guys hate it, lol!) sine qua non of the best strikers that they are completely selfish?
 






Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

I believe in Joe Hendry
Oct 4, 2003
12,084
[tweet]1288770165522477058[/tweet]

It tells us that you’ve got no idea what position Veltman plays, and that counting isn’t really a strong point. There does seems to be a collective thought in Leeds that defender automatically equals same place that Ben White plays so that means he’s joining.
 


LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield


LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield
[tweet]1288770165522477058[/tweet]

It tells us that you’ve got no idea what position Veltman plays, and that counting isn’t really a strong point. There does seems to be a collective thought in Leeds that defender automatically equals same place that Ben White plays so that means he’s joining.

£20m? :lolol:
 




oneillco

Well-known member
Feb 13, 2013
1,322
Blimey this is getting tedious, on every media platform that you look at there are Leeds fans insisting that White should be there's, mainly it seems on the basis that they are a "big" club and that White would be a nobody without them. Even a bloke I know from Leeds got upset because I reminded him that the loan system works on the basis of lending developing player to lower division clubs. He didn't like the expression "lower division" despite it being 100% accurate...
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat


Not Andy Naylor

Well-known member
Dec 12, 2007
8,996
Seven Dials
Because there wasn't one?

Having said that, Pascal Struijk, signed from Ajax into our U23s, and younger than Ben started the last couple of games. He has done very well so far so could be the next Bielsa coached wunderkind.

(For those who get annoyed with anyone using dirty foreign words and phrases on this British website, French, Latin, whatever, it means wonder boy in German so they tell me).

Another central defender, Beradi, incurred a long term injury in our final game, that is why a replacement for White is so pressing despite Struijk's apparent startling progress into the first team as a 20 year old.

Wonder child, actually. But then of course you knew that. Pretending you didn't is all part of your rhetorical box of tricks, like Chaucer's Franklin who "sleep nevere on the Mount of Parnaso." Confounding us knuckle-draggers who get annoyed with anyone using dirty foreign words and phrases on this British website again, you clever boy.
 


A1X

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NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,553
Deepest, darkest Sussex
[tweet]1288770165522477058[/tweet]

It tells us that you’ve got no idea what position Veltman plays, and that counting isn’t really a strong point. There does seems to be a collective thought in Leeds that defender automatically equals same place that Ben White plays so that means he’s joining.

I assume that figure is being rounded to the nearest £20m?
 




Danny Wilson Said

New member
May 2, 2020
584
Palookaville
Zaha to Leeds and everyone's happy. He gets to go to a club challenging for a Champions League place (apparently) and Palace get tons of money from wealthy Leeds and a sulky player out of their dressing room.
 


DarrenFreemansPerm

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Sep 28, 2010
17,446
Shoreham
I’ve just been advised, in a language somewhat akin to English but not quite, that Ben White is our player “only on paper” . This was followed up by the usual irrational spiel.
 


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