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[Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans



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The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,759
Chandlers Ford
'It's isn't about the money for Bielsa'...... Maybe not, but isn't he on some ridiculously high salary? Or was last year, as he hasn't signed up for the coming season yet. He has been very close to doing so for at least a week now.

Indeed. The constant ‘doesn’t care about the money’ mantra, is funny. They are talking about a guy earning £6m/year. He’s literally one of the highest paid football managers in the world.

It may be true that he’s not one to covet material possessions (flat over a shop, blah, blah) but he is more than content to absolutely COIN it in.
 






BigRed

New member
May 22, 2020
23
Indeed. The constant ‘doesn’t care about the money’ mantra, is funny. They are talking about a guy earning £6m/year. He’s literally one of the highest paid football managers in the world.

It may be true that he’s not one to covet material possessions (flat over a shop, blah, blah) but he is more than content to absolutely COIN it in.

He pays his assistants out of that 6m. How many coaches do you know that pay 2m of their own money to build a team’s training ground
 




Killer Whale

Banned
Jul 27, 2020
213
Seems like you’re more into Bielsa than you are Leeds.

I have supported Leeds for more than five decades, going to my first match in 1969.

So I have seen a lot of managers come and go, a lot. Too many.

Bielsa is the best manager since Don Revie during all that time (and therefore in Leeds' whole history) in my view.

His side isn't anything like as good as the teams managed by Wilkinson or O'Leary, he hasn't got players of remotely their quality. Some of them were absolutely world class.

But as a manager only Revie was better.
 




BigRed

New member
May 22, 2020
23
I have supported Leeds for more than five decades, going to my first match in 1969.

So I have seen a lot of managers come and go, a lot. Too many.

Bielsa is the best manager since Don Revie during all that time (and therefore in Leeds' whole history) in my view.

His side isn't anything like as good as the teams managed by Wilkinson or O'Leary, he hasn't got players of remotely their quality. Some of them were absolutely world class.

But as a manager only Revie was better.

Some of the stuff they’ve played in the last 2 seasons is as good as anything ive seen & ive been going since 1993. That includes some of the stuff played in the champions league.
 


Megazone

On his last warning
Jan 28, 2015
8,679
Northern Hemisphere.
I have supported Leeds for more than five decades, going to my first match in 1969.

So I have seen a lot of managers come and go, a lot. Too many.

Bielsa is the best manager since Don Revie during all that time (and therefore in Leeds' whole history) in my view.

His side isn't anything like as good as the teams managed by Wilkinson or O'Leary, he hasn't got players of remotely their quality. Some of them were absolutely world class.

But as a manager only Revie was better.

Wasn't it these world class players you had, the cause of your drop to the 3rd division? Like Portsmouth, Leeds had players the club should never been able to afford.
Before the Revie era, Leeds were nothing more than just a team who sat in the 2nd flight.
It seems like all of Leeds history is based around a very small period of their existence. The Revie era, that one season with Wilkinson and those few years when you did a Portsmouth to try and win a few trophies.
So Biesla, a manager who's never managed in the top flight, being regarded as your 2nd greatest ever manager, really doesn't surprise me.
 


Neville's Breakfast

Well-known member
May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
Wasn't it these world class players you had, the cause of your drop to the 3rd division? Like Portsmouth, Leeds had players the club should never been able to afford.
Before the Revie era, Leeds were nothing more than just a team who sat in the 2nd flight.
It seems like all of Leeds history is based around a very small period of their existence. The Revie era, that one season with Wilkinson and those few years when you did a Portsmouth to try and win a few trophies.
So Biesla, a manager who's never managed in the top flight, being regarded as your 2nd greatest ever manager, really doesn't surprise me.

All of this is true, but not in their heads. That’s why they have a real need to persuade everyone else of their spin. What other club’s fans come on to NSC to tell us how big they are ? The answer is none.

Edit; sorry, forgot about the massive Sheffield Wednesday.
 




Killer Whale

Banned
Jul 27, 2020
213
Wasn't it these world class players you had, the cause of your drop to the 3rd division? Like Portsmouth, Leeds had players the club should never been able to afford.
Before the Revie era, Leeds were nothing more than just a team who sat in the 2nd flight.
It seems like all of Leeds history is based around a very small period of their existence. The Revie era, that one season with Wilkinson and those few years when you did a Portsmouth to try and win a few trophies.
So Biesla, a manager who's never managed in the top flight, being regarded as your 2nd greatest ever manager, really doesn't surprise me.

Leeds have had some truly great managers during that time, they just weren't any good at or for Leeds.

I don't know how old you are but even if they are before your time you must heard of Jock Stein. Brian Clough. Two of the greatest managers in British football history. Both failed at Leeds...
 


Megazone

On his last warning
Jan 28, 2015
8,679
Northern Hemisphere.
Leeds have had some truly great managers during that time, they just weren't any good at or for Leeds.

I don't know how old you are but even if they are before your time you must heard of Jock Stein. Brian Clough. Two of the greatest managers in British football history. Both failed at Leeds...

Brian Clough wasn't a great manager for you therefore you didn't witness a great manager there. That's not how it works.

Biesla is your 2nd greatest manager. You said it yourself. I don't think you can then go on to say you've witnessed loads of great managers after that statement. It just proves how 2nd tier Leeds truly are.
 






Aug 13, 2020
1,482
Darlington
Brian Clough wasn't a great manager for you therefore you didn't witness a great manager there. That's not how it works.

Biesla is your 2nd greatest manager. You said it yourself. I don't think you can then go on to say you've witnessed loads of great managers after that statement. It just proves how 2nd tier Leeds truly are.

To be fair, he was only there for about 40 days, maybe Killer Whale was recovering from eye surgery at the time.

It's also not really fair to say he failed at Leeds, but that's by the by.
 


Frankworthington

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2019
1,542
South Shields
Leeds have had some truly great managers during that time, they just weren't any good at or for Leeds.

I don't know how old you are but even if they are before your time you must heard of Jock Stein. Brian Clough. Two of the greatest managers in British football history. Both failed at Leeds...

Both managers were only at Leeds for a short time.

In the case of Clough 44 days before being sacked..Hardly given a chance was he? Mind you,his pay-off set him up for life.

He should have stayed at a big club.
 


vagabond

Well-known member
May 17, 2019
9,804
Brighton
All of this is true, but not in their heads. That’s why they have a real need to persuade everyone else of their spin. What other club’s fans come on to NSC to tell us how big they are ? The answer is none.

Edit; sorry, forgot about the massive Sheffield Wednesday.

I quite like that we have a few resident Leeds fans happily contributing here to a thread called “Deluded Leeds fans”.

For some reason that tickles me.
 




Granny on the wing

New member
Sep 7, 2019
152
Leeds have had some truly great managers during that time, they just weren't any good at or for Leeds.

I don't know how old you are but even if they are before your time you must heard of Jock Stein. Brian Clough. Two of the greatest managers in British football history. Both failed at Leeds...
I am sure Biesla is a good Manager as he got you out of the Championship ,and Ben White was a big part of that .The idea that Albion being a small club need the money for BW is not based on current reality .The clue is to look at what Tony Bloom has been trying to do with the Academy and find some good young players for the future so in the long term we don`t have to spend big money on bringing players in to stay in the Premier League and the ambition to get into the top ten .So at the moment IMO he would not want to sell BW even for 30 mill .BW is worth more to keep for us and see what happens next season .You need to move on from the BW situation you main priority is to survive the first season the big thing with the Premier League is if you make a mistake 3 passes and its in the back of the net as we have found out a few times .
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,738
Eastbourne
Some of the stuff they’ve played in the last 2 seasons is as good as anything ive seen & ive been going since 1993. That includes some of the stuff played in the champions league.

Are you comparing matches against the likes of Barnsley and Hull (two other big Yorks sides) against the likes of the European greats such as Liverpool, R.Madrid and Bayern Munich? Wow.
 


SeagullinExile

Well-known member
Sep 10, 2010
6,190
London
Some of the stuff they’ve played in the last 2 seasons is as good as anything ive seen & ive been going since 1993. That includes some of the stuff played in the champions league.

Every team that comes up thinks that mate.
 


ConfusedGloryHunter

He/him/his/that muppet
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2011
2,411
Wasn't it these world class players you had, the cause of your drop to the 3rd division? Like Portsmouth, Leeds had players the club should never been able to afford.
Before the Revie era, Leeds were nothing more than just a team who sat in the 2nd flight.
It seems like all of Leeds history is based around a very small period of their existence. The Revie era, that one season with Wilkinson and those few years when you did a Portsmouth to try and win a few trophies.
So Biesla, a manager who's never managed in the top flight, being regarded as your 2nd greatest ever manager, really doesn't surprise me.

I disagree I think you will find Portsmouth did a Leeds to try and buy glory.
 








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