So he's going to Leeds to coach the under 23's?
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So he's going to Leeds to coach the under 23's?
No idea, but I think his previous history has been listed on this thread somewhere! To be honest, I'd certainly never heard of him until I started following Ben White's season-long loan (without an option to buy clause) at Leeds.
nickbrighton
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I was about to post something similar, there seems to be a bit of a love in with Bielsa, with various managers saying how good he is, but , if we take the "winning something at the highest level" as a bench mark for being a truly world class manager I cant see what he has done. He has taken Leeds to the title in the second tier with a reasonable record , but no championship records broken, and as has been pointed out, we came second with an identical return.
In the world game he hasn't won, or come close to winning anything at international level, and none of his teams at club level have picked up domestic or international trophies
So what is it that makes him anything other than a competent to good manager? He obviously cant be relied on to commit to a club given his record of waking out after a few days! He obviously doesn't command loyalty from his coaching staff given most of Leeds have jumped from a Premier League bound team to Championship stugglers .
Is it really a case of "Emperors New Clothes " we are seeing?
Because he isn’t about the money etc, him & his staff are still taking preseason training as usual. It’s not about the money to Bielsa it’s the all about the football first which is why his contracts take a while to sort because he’s too interested in the football side of things.
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Olympic gold medal with Argentina and two Argentinian league titles?
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“Not for sale”means... we can go in with an improved bid of £2m... obviously? Don’t be silly.
Ross old boy. I value your house at £50k. That’s fantastic business for both of us. That should be enough to the deal. Don’t be greedy and keep your house hostage. I’ll collect the keys next week.
Doesn’t understand sellers market [emoji3581]
https://twitter.com/news_leeds/status/1294552477229027328
Ross old boy. I value your house at £50k. That’s fantastic business for both of us. That should be enough to the deal. Don’t be greedy and keep your house hostage. I’ll collect the keys next week.
Doesn’t understand sellers market [emoji3581]
https://twitter.com/news_leeds/status/1294552477229027328
Yes he has, Corbaran was mainly u23’s coach who also helped on matchdays & was already at Leeds when Bielsa came. Bielsa has 4/5 assistants that work under him
nickbrighton
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Thank you, so an Under 23 international competition, and two national titles, so a good manager but hardly enough to justify "best in the world" CV.
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Does that strike you as the entire career trophy haul for a “World Class” manager?
No, me either.
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“Barcelona just doesn’t have the same appeal as Leeds United”
Suuuuurre
https://twitter.com/road_lowfields/status/1294579306727964673
Suuuuurre
https://twitter.com/road_lowfields/status/1294579306727964673
That’s quite a rash offer, to be honest. he might take you up on that.
Seasider78
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Christ on a bike that’s the best one yet
Seasider78
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Well for someone who is all about the football he has left you lot right in the s*** as the season starts in 4 weeks and what player would sign for a club where the manager has not yet committed.
That’s nonsense, Bielsa has completely changed the culture of the club from the layout of the training ground pretty much designing it to way he wants it, has the club built around his whole ethos. If promises are made to him & kept there is no ticking time bomb. He left lazio because what they had promised was a lie. He’s a man of principle & is humble. He paid 2m out of his own money to build newells a training ground, he lives in a flat above a shop. Bielsa prefers his squads to be 18 senior players with the rest from the youth teams. So the u23’s are constantly training with the first team learning his methods which is why we’ve had so many debuts over the past 2 years they know the system inside out & he has full faith in the kids ability to just slot in.
Now put that against Hughton & potter and ask yourselves would they be brave enough to have at least 10 players under 20 make their debuts while he’s been in charge. They answer is no they wouldn’t that’s why he’s got the reputation he has because it’s brave. Doesn’t always come off like many say “he’s never won anything” but he goes to do it his way making players along the way. I.e Ben white, Benjamin Mandy, Andre Herrera, etc
Because he is committed, Jack Harrison just signed his interview “I can’t wait to get started with Marcelo again” everyone knows he’s staying he’s taking preseason he’s walking around the streets in Leeds training gear. No one is worried because he’s happy
I don’t think you quite understand Bielsa, you’ll learn more this year. I actually think Barca might appeal to him if he is asked but as person Bielsa honestly isn’t taken by money & size of the club, he’s a romantic & really honourable that’s where the leeds fans come from when they say he’d not leave because he isn’t a mercenary. If he feels like he’s still got a job to do or owes someone something he could very well turn it down. That’s not because we are as big as Barca it’s because he’s honourable
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Living in fantasy & delusion. More imaginary contract rejections (no facts of course).
Be interesting to see how their narrative changes once Ben signs an extension.
https://twitter.com/adamclarke19/status/1294556160138321920
Be interesting to see how their narrative changes once Ben signs an extension.
https://twitter.com/adamclarke19/status/1294556160138321920