[Football] Delle Alli: Where next?

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Call me old fashioned (or even a dinosaur) but sadly it’s all down to his upbringing, car crash family life gave him ‘issues’ way beyond his footballing talent.

I would have thought Spurs would have learnt their lesson with Gazza, and had come kind of well being plan in place off the fiend, but instead they paid him thousands of pounds a week, leave a young lad in a big city to his own devices and expected him to behave like Prince William

Nail on head

 

[Badger Boy]

How can his decline be obvious against the backdrop of the basket case that was/is Chelsea. Every one of their players has underperformed, this surely suggests that it is something about the club rather than the 652 individual players.

You may of course be right that he is cooked and this is the start of a massive decline but until we see that happening at a club functioning effectively you can't say it is 'obvious' or 'clear that he is past is prime.

Well you can, and you did but I would disagree.

I may be early and right, or totally wrong. But I think he's done at the top level in a similar way to Theo Walcott. He might keep playing, his talent will see him score a few and he won't lose the instinct of being in the right place at the right time. But he was a big part of why Chelsea failed last season, for me. Not the only part of course - they were a catastrophe.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

why does there have to be a deep reason though? Most of us has know co-workers who can’t always be arsed and don’t always put the effort in. Footballers shouldn’t be any different. A failing career doesn’t necessarily mean they’ve gone off the rails or are depressed or whatever.

For most top athletes staying at the top takes a lot of dedication. I don’t see this in Ali.

Exactly, and more likely to happen as an elite footballer.

The 1st, first team contract sets them for life regardless of performance there for the discipline to perform / improve won’t be there for some as they have a financial safety net already

 

[Worried Man Blues]

Maybe he's just bored with it all and doesn't give a toss

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

Maybe he's just bored with it all and doesn't give a toss

It could be as basic as this.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I think the decline of Ali shows just how good Poch was as a manager for Spurs. No one got anything like that level of performance from him before or since. Danny Rose another example. Much like our current environment, Poch seemed to improve and coach players and he may well sort out the Chelsea mess. If anyone can, he can.

Good point. Bit like El Abd and Poyet. Sometimes things just click.

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

Good point. Bit like El Abd and Poyet. Sometimes things just click.

Likewise if you clash with the next manager for whatever reason you can soon end up demotivated and demoralised.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Likewise if you clash with the next manager for whatever reason you can soon end up demotivated and demoralised.

True. I have had a few managers I have not always liked. As I said earlier, there does not always have to be a deep reason.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

I think the decline of Ali shows just how good Poch was as a manager for Spurs. No one got anything like that level of performance from him before or since. Danny Rose another example. Much like our current environment, Poch seemed to improve and coach players and he may well sort out the Chelsea mess. If anyone can, he can.

Although his performance dropped off significantly while Pochettino was still Spurs manager.
Sometimes the right person's only the right person for a while (or maybe just happens to be in the right place at the right time, who knows).

 

[jcdenton08]

I think the Tottenham documentary was very telling, and Mourinho’s words were absolutely correct. He was rolling his eyes, making faces and generally acting the bollocks when one of the most decorated managers in the world was trying to help him.

He struck me as a petulant child and absolutely the last type of personality you want in the dressing room, bringing people down and undermining the management.

He checked out on football mentally a long time ago, and Everton only gave themselves to blame for what has been yet another hugely expensive disastrous signing of an overpaid has-been (they seem to never learn).

 

[Iggle Piggle]

Although his performance dropped off significantly while Pochettino was still Spurs manager.
Sometimes the right person's only the right person for a while (or maybe just happens to be in the right place at the right time, who knows).

I think there is always a bit of right place, right time about any manager. I still don't know why Chris Hughton was such a disaster at Forest for example. I've always liked Poch though - at least until he went to that place - and looking back he got a team with Harry Winks, Dele Ali and Danny Rose to a champions League final. That Spurs team did have some decent players but he managed to get the best out of the rest. Nobody else has got a tune out of them.

 

[Ali_rrr]

For those of you wondering what has happened to Dele, here he is talking to Gary Neville as part of The Overlap.

 

[Springal]

Also revealed he was sexually abused as a 6 year old

 

[Mellotron]

That video is well worth watching.

Really hope he is out the other side of his issues, only 27 so could still perform at a high level, his potential was huge.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I think the decline of Ali shows just how good Poch was as a manager for Spurs. No one got anything like that level of performance from him before or since. Danny Rose another example. Much like our current environment, Poch seemed to improve and coach players and he may well sort out the Chelsea mess. If anyone can, he can.

Sterling may benefit from this but I suspect not. His pace seems to have dropped off (his workrate definitely has) and I couldn't believe how poor he was against us. Football is littered with players who just aren't the same when their pace goes from Michael Owen to our very own Tariq Lamptey. I'd be surprised if he upticks next year but he's got a chance with Poch behind him.

Mopo is partly to blame for the shell of a player he is now

Over played him, rushed him back from injury when he wasn't fit and didn't manage his injuries well enough

From a completely football view, him and Owens career path is quite similar with being played too much when young, mismanaged when it came to injuries, which lead to him not trusting his body or it fully healing leading to issues later on.

 

[B-right-on]

For those of you wondering what has happened to Dele, here he is talking to Gary Neville as part of The Overlap.

Very powerful interview. Really good that he's stood up to face his demons and looks like he's conquered them. MH is such a stigma still and him coming out to speak about his issues is brilliant for both himself and others. Well done for getting yourself together to get help young man.

Neville is excellent as an interviewer.

 

[Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ]

Very interesting and well done to him!

 

[WhingForPresident]

The interview is worth 45 mins of anyone's time.

Hope he can get his life and career back on track, hard to believe anyone could get through what he did as a kid and make a success of themselves.

 

[jamie (not that one)]

Video not what I was expecting.

 

[Ali_rrr]

Video above was incredible.

Edit: I see you changed your comment