[Politics] Dear Rishi Sunak...

[Is it PotG?]

At the last General Election Boris Johnson championed all these green policies that the unelected Rishi has now binned. What gives him the right to do that? He has no mandate.

There's no vision, there's no ambition, there's nothing to inspire and I can see why the Tory members weren't impressed and turned to Liz Truss in desperation.

I remember that Labour were a shoe-in for the 1997 General Election from 2 years out, and yet the Tory Party then was nowhere near as washed up and out of ideas as this lot.

Indeed, Starmer will get us back on track, just you see.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Indeed, Starmer will get us back on track, just you see.

He cannot be any worse than the dross we've endured for the last 8 years. The coalition was OK, once Dave was on his own the country went tits up.

 

[St Leonards Seagull]

Yeah, but just think of the Utopia after that!

I don’t think anyone is thinking Utopia. I’d take something not built on hate and corruption at present.
Edit. I’ll add some sort of competence to the list.

 

[St Leonards Seagull]

Not if @Is it PotG? and @Chicken Run get their way.

Thankfully a very rapidly diminishing group, but still defending the cabal at every opportunity

Although I would look really foolish if turned out they were major investors in one of JRM's disaster investment groups, a risk I'll just have to take

I can’t think of any reason to vote conservative unless you stand to make a few quid off the back of it.
Obviously some people are pretty die hard in their politics and will defend anything.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I can’t think of any reason to vote conservative unless you stand to make a few quid off the back of it.
Obviously some people are pretty die hard in their politics and will defend anything.

Never voted Tory in my life, ain't gonna start now.

They're all snouts in the trough ......

 

[Machiavelli]

"China’s emissions now exceed all developed nations combined. But let’s cull cows, ban gas boilers, enforce ULEZ, dump 40 million tons of wind turbine blades in landfills by 2050, use electric car batteries with cobalt mined by child slaves in Congo."

Care to share per capita emissions between China and the UK?
Care to share historical emissions between China and the UK?
Care to factor in how those emissions are calculated, and whether it features just domestic production, or also include production for export (and have a look at where about half the goods you consume come from)?

 

[zefarelly]

Spot on.

You may have noticed how many EV charging points are covered up with black sacks (including 4 or 5 charging points in the car park at the Cricketers - yes, there again). They've installed them months ago, painted the tarmac to restrict the spaces to EV's only, but they have NEVER been operational. Because the local electricity grid would not be able to supply the juice without blacking out half of Southwick, Shoreham and Portslade. GENIUS!

And this is a nationwide issue. The infrastructure is simply not in place for a mass-switch to EVs, and won't be any time soon. I like the idea of an EV, but if I was travelling more than a couple of hundred miles then I'd be sweating cobs about finding a charger thats actually operating (and not being stuck behind a queue of cars waiting to plug in to it).

The infrastructure is not suitable for anything . . . . It's been run into the ground for nigh on 50 years now.

fat slags in 3.5T diesel 'stylised' trucks driving a mile instead of walking little Timmy-tosspot and Clarissa-minge to school down pre Victorian narrow roads is barely a scratch of the surface ( which is sinking )

 

[clapham_gull]

It's a strange strategy to win the next election.

It's clear that all they have is:

1) Double down on the very right wing of their base, try and keep on board a few of deeply "conservative" traditional Labour voters they attracted last election.
2) Try and get over the line with headline pre-election tax cuts
3) Work out the consequences after.

They are thinking that what won the last election will win the next, but that isn't going to happen.

However strategically, Starmer has to very careful with his discussions with the EU. His existing base will be happy, but they need new votes.

Such talks are an open goal for the Tory supporting press who will happily print any old nonsense about them.

 

[Is it PotG?]

It's a strange strategy to win the next election.

It's clear that all they have is:

1) Double down on the very right wing of their base, try and keep on board a few of deeply "conservative" traditional Labour voters they attracted last election.
2) Try and get over the line with headline pre-election tax cuts
3) Work out the consequences after.

They are thinking that what won the last election will win the next, but that isn't going to happen.

However strategically, Starmer has to very careful with his discussions with the EU. His existing base will be happy, but they need new votes.

Such talks are an open goal for the Tory supporting press who will happily print any old nonsense about them.

Get the Lib Dems in.....

 

[WATFORD zero]

Never voted Tory in my life, ain't gonna start now.

They're all snouts in the trough ......

Never voted Tory in your life but have spent the last 6 years defending this current cabal at every opportunity. Now where have I heard that before

Probably the same as I don't vote any more

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Isn't this just going in line with countries like Germany who have pushed it back?

 

[Is it PotG?]

Never voted Tory in your life but have spent the last 6 years defending this current cabal at every opportunity. Now where have I heard that before

More worried about the abysmal, feeble, fence sitting, Union backed alternative.

Get your facts right.

 

[zefarelly]

Care to share per capita emissions between China and the UK?
Care to share historical emissions between China and the UK?
Care to factor in how those emissions are calculated, and whether it features just domestic production, or also include production for export (and have a look at where about half the goods you consume come from)?

I hate this, but it is the undeniable truth.

An old boy said to me, about 5 years ago, If anything good can come from B****t it will be that we start manufacturing again.
Sadly the skills and experience on any scale are long gone.
In shipping tat round the world we've made things at least twice as bad environmentally . . . . . But if there was a factory in Brighton you can bet your bottom euro it'd be hounded out of town By sandal wearing legume munching goons.

 

[clapham_gull]

More worried about the abysmal, feeble, fence sitting, Union backed alternative.

Get your facts right.

I always find it amusing that the Labour are attacked because some of their funding comes from vested interests....

 

[WATFORD zero]

More worried about the abysmal, feeble, fence sitting, Union backed alternative.

Get your facts right.

I bet you don't even bother to vote any more

I am a little old fashioned in this respect.

When I voted (don't anymore, live in a very blue constituency), I voted for the Party, not any individual. In my days in the Young Socialists, couldn't bear Kinnock but that was where my interests lay.

And yet, at the 2019 election

Just been to plant my 'X', reassuring that the rain doesn't seem to have deterred the wrinklies at my local.

You do understand it's the Internet, facts remain on there

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

At the last General Election Boris Johnson championed all these green policies that the unelected Rishi has now binned. What gives him the right to do that? He has no mandate.

There's no vision, there's no ambition, there's nothing to inspire and I can see why the Tory members weren't impressed and turned to Liz Truss in desperation.

I remember that Labour were a shoe-in for the 1997 General Election from 2 years out, and yet the Tory Party then was nowhere near as washed up and out of ideas as this lot.

It really is time to change to law/rules that if a leader is outed for any other reason than Ill health it should lead to an election

 

[Is it PotG?]

I bet you don't even bother to vote any more

Betting is a mug's game mate.....oh hold on......

 

[WATFORD zero]

Betting is a mug's game mate.....oh hold on......

It'll give you time to come up with an explanation

 

[clapham_gull]

I hate this, but it is the undeniable truth.

An old boy said to me, about 5 years ago, If anything good can come from B****t it will be that we start manufacturing again.
Sadly the skills and experience on any scale are long gone.
In shipping tat round the world we've made things at least twice as bad environmentally . . . . . But if there was a factory in Brighton you can bet your bottom euro it'd be hounded out of town By sandal wearing legume munching goons.

.. and Brexit really (from the extremists) was always about throwing manufacturing, farming and fishing under a bus, turning the UK into a purely service industry and relying on cheap imported goods and cheap imported labour (with less rights) to do the shitty jobs.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I bet you don't even bother to vote any more




And yet, at the 2019 election



You do understand it's the Internet, facts remain on there

Another edit Gap?