Dear Nicky Forster

[Mr Burns]

Touched a nerve there then.

The results improved once Forsters was back. We could have beaten Norwich but instead of having Forster on the bench we brought on Carole and lost. We should have beaten a lack lustre Huddersfield in the previous game but had nothing to bring on up front to take advantage of that.

I think it is you whose head is immersed in Uraguayan darkness. There would have been no problem if all players were treated equally but they weren't. The club annouce no contracts are going to be discussed and in the next breath give one to El Abd. A good solid player but not one you would expect to see playing regularly in a promotion push next year. Forsters', or his agents, comments merely stated the fact, ie his contract is up at end the year and he is available to talk to other clubs. No 'transfer request' was made as admitted by Poyet. It would have been better if he hadn't have said it but then Poyet should've have been honest about the contracts.

I am quite happy with the way things are progressing and that Poyet is our manager but that doesn't mean I worship the ground he treads and, as a young manager, I expect him to make mistakes. However, it whether he learns from these that will make him an even better manager.

You haven't touched a nerve mate. Don't flatter yourself. No one that talks shit has ever touched a nerve.

Oh Dear. You really have it all mixed up don't you. I think you have taken "fact" and mixed them all up to make your argument sound the way you want it to.

For a start how have results improved since Forsters been back. He hasn't been back, unless you are going to credit him for the 3-0 over Brentford.

I think you will also find the club gave El-Abd a contract, then announced it wasn't giving any more. Maybe someone else was in for El-Abd and Poyet wanted him to stay here, the reason Forster wasn't offered anything, is Poyet obviosuly doesn't see him as part of his plans. You state Poyet and club club have acted badly... how? We've signed a player we wanted, and not sign others we are unsure about. Has Forster got a clause in his contract that says the club have to make him an offer before 5 months before his deal runs out? No, so why should he be treated different to anyone else.


THis "No transfer request" line is why you really fly off too cuckoo land. Why would an out of contract player make a transfer request.... AFTER THE TRANSFER DEADLINE. Why would the club deny it, it did not happen, because it could not happen.

You don't even know whether it was Forster OR his agent who makes the comments, so I suggest you go away, find out the facts and then come back and make a comment, because I think you will find as I said, and a lot of other people have said, Forster acted like a twat over this, and has got what he deserves.

 

[drew]

Your arrogance is breathtaking. You have your opinion based on what you believe you know and others have theirs. That doesn't make them any more ignorant, dumb or pathetic than you are. For the record - just because people have a less than favourable view on Forter's recent actions doesn't mean they have some sort of pro-Gus love-in agenda. Wind your neck in.

Not all but the vast majority of those posting negatively about Forster are in a pro Poyet love in. They talk as if the guy can do no wrong. Sorry if you think it's arrogance but to me it's more frustration that everyone seems to bang on and on about the transfer request that even poyet admits never existed. As far as I am aware, Forster has never said 'I want to leave'. It's just the way SSN has interpreted his contract situation and everyone suddenly treats it as gospel. Can anyone point to the SSN article which quotes Forster saying he wants a transfer?

Erm, the news was broken by Sky Sports News that he handed in a transfer request, this before anyone at the club knew about it and before any official statement from Forster and the club was made.

So now Sky Sports are the fountain of all truth. Poyet has stated that Forster never handed in a transfer request. How is then that SSN say he handed in a transfer request yet the club never got anything?

 

[Bwian]

Erm, the news was broken by Sky Sports News that he handed in a transfer request, this before anyone at the club knew about it and before any official statement from Forster and the club was made.

That's not enough-go away and use Google then the truth can be told.

Apparently.

Factor in the fact that Forster did nothing to deny his actions and you have a situation that made his stay at the club finite. Had his very public virtual two fingered salute to Poyet not been made then I would have expected him to be here next season and more than likely added to the coaching staff at the end of his playing days.

He's gone-it's a shame and I'd rather he was still here but the club cannot afford to have senior players acting like Forster did. Publicly. He should have kept his mouth shut outside of the manager's office. All other players out of contract at the end of the season have acted sensibly, are all still at the club and all still in with a shout of playing for a contract next season (as unlikely as it seems for most of them).

 

[drew]

That's not enough-go away and use Google then the truth can be told.

Apparently.

Factor in the fact that Forster did nothing to deny his actions and you have a situation that made his stay at the club finite. Had his very public virtual two fingered salute to Poyet not been made then I would have expected him to be here next season and more than likely added to the coaching staff at the end of his playing days.

He's gone-it's a shame and I'd rather he was still here but the club cannot afford to have senior players acting like Forster did. Publicly. He should have kept his mouth shut outside of the manager's office. All other players out of contract at the end of the season have acted sensibly, are all still at the club and all still in with a shout of playing for a contract next season (as unlikely as it seems for most of them).

But it's ok for the club to give a two fingered salute. As I said before, the whole issue arose out of double standards. But hey, you welcome to your opinion to ignore that.

 

[FLOG GNAW]

He's left, move on.

He scored a lot of goals cos it's his job to. We will have replaced him by this time next year.

 

[severnside gull]

Either Fortser or his agent went to SSN and leaked the fact that he had handed in his transfer request ... a meaningless and futile act which caused nothing but angst. Forster isn't stupid, neither is his agent, they knew exactly what they were doing. He could have nipped things in the bud but he didn't say anything for what, four days.
He tried to take on Poyet and lost, also by taking on Poyet he took on Bloom as Poyet was Bloom's first major decision, obviously apart from spunking £95m (which he'll not get back) on the stadium and the club. Bloom must have sat there a thought ... '36 year old player or up and coming manager' ....no brainer really.

To me his actions were crass and premeditated. Poyet was obviously decided on El-Abd, the others he is not hence the way it was done.

The best person to aks regards Forster is DW as I've heard that Forster was the catalyst for the DW debacle,

 

[Bwian]

But it's ok for the club to give a two fingered salute. As I said before, the whole issue arose out of double standards. But hey, you welcome to your opinion to ignore that.

Players do not dictate to clubs-especially via Sky Sports News. You're welcome to ignore that-as you clearly continue to do.

 

[Simster]

Players do not dictate to clubs-especially via Sky Sports News. You're welcome to ignore that-as you clearly continue to do.

For me, that's the bottom line. drew, you need to address this if you're going to defend his conduct.

 

[Mr Burns]

Can anyone point to the SSN article which quotes Forster saying he wants a transfer?
?

You clearly have no idea of what happened here, and judging by comments on this thread by people that I beleive do, you'd be best off dropping it, because you are making yourself look a a bit of a pratt.

Go away, speak to people in the know, and the truth you will discover. All the time you state it was "Forster OR his agent" clearly shows you are guessing at whats happened. Either that or you are close to Forster, and are trying to defend him in some strange way, or simply cannot admit when you are wrong.

Trust me, Forster tried to use his position as an experienced pro to use his influance, to try and force the hand of the club, and the club basically made an example of him.

Too say any one who has a different opinion to you of having a Poyet Love in, is making yourself look even more ridiclous, as the only love in here is Drew and Nicholas.

He's gone, get over it. Whether or not he was going to get a new deal doesn't matter now, Nicky himself screwed up any chance of that himself.

 

[drew]

You haven't touched a nerve mate. Don't flatter yourself. No one that talks shit has ever touched a nerve.

Oh Dear. You really have it all mixed up don't you. I think you have taken "fact" and mixed them all up to make your argument sound the way you want it to.?

For a start how have results improved since Forsters been back. He hasn't been back, unless you are going to credit him for the 3-0 over Brentford. We had a shit performance against a medicre Huddersfield, a game we should have won. Equally, we got ourselves in a position to beat Norwich and blew it when Carole came on. Given the choice of Forster or Carole to come on I would have chosen the former.

I think you will also find the club gave El-Abd a contract, then announced it wasn't giving any more. Where did you get that from? Forster in comments to SSN on 2nd Jan stated he accepted that the club were deferring discussions on new contracts and understood why. The announcement about El Abd's contract came on the 30th Jan!!!!!Maybe someone else was in for El-Abd amazing conjecture and not a whiff of any speculation about that at the time on this forumand Poyet wanted him to stay here, the reason Forster wasn't offered anything, is Poyet obviosuly doesn't see him as part of his plans. You state Poyet and club club have acted badly... how? We've signed a player we wanted, and not sign others we are unsure about. Has Forster got a clause in his contract that says the club have to make him an offer before 5 months before his deal runs out? No, so why should he be treated different to anyone else.No I doubt he has but in any walk of life where you have fixed contracts, you don't wait till the last minute to either a) discuss an extension or at least see where the land lies or b) talk to other potential employers. Think you will find that all player contracts allow them to talk to other clubs from the January before their contract expires.


THis "No transfer request" line is why you really fly off too cuckoo land. Why would an out of contract player make a transfer request.... AFTER THE TRANSFER DEADLINE. Why would the club deny it, it did not happen, because it could not happen.not sure what point you're making because I agree no transfer request ever seems to have been made but it appears a lot of people are intimating it did and that that was the toy Forster threw out of his pram?

You don't even know whether it was Forster OR his agent who makes the comments, so I suggest you go away, find out the facts and then come back and make a comment, because I think you will find as I said, and a lot of other people have said, Forster acted like a twat over this, and has got what he deserves.

You are right, I don't know who made the alleged comments as I have tried to find the article and can't. That is why I have asked those that continually bang on about a transfer request to see if they can. They probably can't either and that could be because no one made the comments about a transfer!

I'm not saying that Forster is whiter than white but on balance I believe the club made the bigger mistake. On 2nd Jan Forsters comments to SSN seemed to accept why the club weren't discussing contracts and at that point he stated he wanted to stay but at his age with a family he had to think about security. Nothing wrong with that. Then 30th Jan the club announce new contract to a good, but not exceptional, player contradicting their earlier statement about not discussing contracts. If I was the senior pro at the club, top scorer for two and half seasons, club captain, I think I would be a little miffed at the way I was being treated.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

So now Sky Sports are the fountain of all truth. Poyet has stated that Forster never handed in a transfer request. How is then that SSN say he handed in a transfer request yet the club never got anything?

Someone in the Forster camped leaked 'something' to SSN, hence SNN putting the transfer story out. Let's face it , it wouldn't have been someone from the club would it! If it was made up by SSN then Forster should have denied it immediately ... he did not and that to me speaks volumes.

Sorry but Forster is in the wrong here and I'm surprised that your trying to defend him on this. He tried it on and got screwed. The fact that he didn't getback in the team after the supposed 'kiss and make up' also speaks volumes.
I would hazard a guess that it wasn't just Poyet that he p*ssed of.

 

[somersetwest]

Nicky Forster is a class act - right down to making sure he thanked the fans and saying he will miss 'us' before leaving.
Until recently, he was often the main reason I bothered going to Withdean during the turgid days of the last couple of seasons.
The most exciting striker at the club after Zamora and Ward in the last 30 years.
Our loss Nicky.
Good Luck

 

[The Large One]

All I'll say is that I very much appreciated the efforts of Nicky Forster over the past (nearly) three seasons, and am very much in gratitude to his 50+ goals he has scored for us along the way.

Nicky, THANK YOU.

However, if you behave like you did, you can expect no grace and favour from any club - and certainly not from someone as determined as Gus Poyet to succeed. You would probably have had your chance for another season with us - and it looks like you blew it.

Good luck in your future endeavours, as long as they don't come back and bite us on the bum.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Sorry but Forster is in the wrong here and I'm surprised that your trying to defend him on this. He tried it on and got screwed. The fact that he didn't getback in the team after the supposed 'kiss and make up' also speaks volumes.
I would hazard a guess that it wasn't just Poyet that he p*ssed of.

And he is only a player. An important one, a senior one, and one that could have expected a post-playing career with the club.

I have no inside line - but it looks like Forster got ideas of his importance above his station. He played his cards badly.

 

[severnside gull]

Forster's "press leak" may have been a relatively minor pecadillo in the greater scheme of things but the real argument here seems to be between those who believe that quality players should be retained and nourished regardless of what they do off the pitch or behind the scenes, and those who disagree. From Georgie Best to Joey Barton and John Terry it's an argument that reflects our society and wherever you sit in the debate you are unlikely to change others' views

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

You are right, I don't know who made the alleged comments as I have tried to find the article and can't. That is why I have asked those that continually bang on about a transfer request to see if they can. They probably can't either and that could be because no one made the comments about a transfer!

If I was the senior pro at the club, top scorer for two and half seasons, club captain, I think I would be a little miffed at the way I was being treated.

SSN put on there banner that he had put in a transfer request, he didn't deny when approached, infact he seemed to disappear. This speaks volumes and adds great weight to the story.

Of course he pissed off, and know doubt are the others, but he's a big boy and would know that at 36 he might not get a contract. He tried to force the issue and got burnt ... some you win, some you lose.

What I object too is that you are putting Fortser before the club regards on how the club does business regards contracts etc. It might not be the nicest way to do it but at the end of the day it's business, and with clubs going to the wall, things are getting cut throat.
The irony is that had he kept quiet I reckon he would have got another contract.

 

[Mr Burns]

You are right, I don't know who made the alleged comments as I have tried to find the article and can't. That is why I have asked those that continually bang on about a transfer request to see if they can. They probably can't either and that could be because no one made the comments about a transfer!

I'm not saying that Forster is whiter than white but on balance I believe the club made the bigger mistake. On 2nd Jan Forsters comments to SSN seemed to accept why the club weren't discussing contracts and at that point he stated he wanted to stay but at his age with a family he had to think about security. Nothing wrong with that. Then 30th Jan the club announce new contract to a good, but not exceptional, player contradicting their earlier statement about not discussing contracts. If I was the senior pro at the club, top scorer for two and half seasons, club captain, I think I would be a little miffed at the way I was being treated.

Firsly contraulations on managing a civil repsonse.

El-Abd was the only contract offered, probably and I'm sure someone will be able to confirm this, he was offered a deal elsewhere, so this forced the clubs hand. Either give him a deal, or lose him. So what else could the club do, unless they wanted to lose a player that Poyet sees something in.

Forster on the other hand, has been trailing off, and the club were not ready to offer him a deal, and on Poyet knows for sure, but I doubt he would have been offered anything for next season regardless of what happened.

Forster is contracted until 30th June, and if he doesn't like whats going on he signs for another club, if there were that many wanting him for next season.

Nice to see you finally admit FOrster isn't whiter than white, but I'm sure if you knew the whole truth you will see things in a different light.

 

[Uter]

Shame he's going, but on the plus side I won't have to listen to people mispronouncing his name as Foster anymore.

 

[JuicySeagull]

I think it's a shame he is going. He deserves at least another season, if not more. I do hope he does a great job at Charlton, but want him back here after his stint. Gus may realise what he's lost when Nicky starts putting them in the back of the net again.

Also, it would be great if he was here for our first game at Falmer, perhaps in a back office role working along side Gus and co.

 

[Man of Harveys]

And he is only a player. An important one, a senior one, and one that could have expected a post-playing career with the club.

I have no inside line - but it looks like Forster got ideas of his importance above his station. He played his cards badly.

This.