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[Albion] De Zerbi was NOT “sacked”











Justice

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I look forward to beating them again in 25/26 season, by which time we will have learned how to defend and RDZ still won’t have figured out a plan B
You enjoyed beating them under a coach who you then imply wasn’t good enough.
How does that even work :shrug:

We implement a perfect plan B in the away leg to achieve a 2-2. Did you miss the tweak in formation and switch of certain players
Positions.
 
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Bold Seagull

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You enjoyed beating them under a coach who you then imply wasn’t good enough.
How does that even work :shrug:

We implement a perfect plan B in the away leg to achieve a 2-2. Did you miss the tweak in formation and switch of certain players
Positions.
Shame he didn't remember that for Rome.
 




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Shame he didn't remember that for Rome.
True. That was awful.

But we were only there in the first place because he got us into Europe and qualified us top of the group.

Brighton fans grousing about not beating Roma will never not be funny.
 




Papa Lazarou

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True. That was awful.

But we were only there in the first place because he got us into Europe and qualified us top of the group.

Brighton fans grousing about not beating Roma will never not be funny.
I doubt if any Brighton fans expected us to win in Rome. However, there is a world of difference between that and what we got. Naïve is the only word I can think of for how we setup that night.
 




Han Solo

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Parting comment from PB - “next time you sign for a club try paying attention at the interview, and maybe don’t repeatedly tell your best players and the media that they should be playing at a higher level”
Indeed. The Moises Caicedo saga is a classic. I made a timeline with some (far from all) De Zerbian quotes about Caicedo and how he deserves to leave, how it doesn't matter, and how its the most important thing to ever happen.

February 2023

“I think Caicedo is very important for us, it’s difficult to change with another player now inside of the season,” De Zerbi said.
“I hope he finishes the season with us but in the transfer market it is always difficult to give one answer.
“When there are some big teams, they want one of our players, it’s good news for us. The best solution is he can finish the season with us and for him, then in the summer it’s better if he changes teams.”

May 2023

"They (the two players) deserve to change the level of team and competition, we have to be happy for them," De Zerbi said after Brighton’s final day 2-1 loss at Aston Villa on Sunday.
"We are Brighton and our policy is to help the young players to progress, we can't keep our best players. That is right, it is our mentality and we have to find more young players.
"It is incredible for us to be in the Europa League, but we deserve it. Now we analyse the squad, we have to improve and build a stronger squad with more players."

August 2023
"I have already forgotten about Moises. I'm really proud of the players we have in the squad. We want to keep improving. The credit goes to the club. Bigger clubs can buy our players but they can't buy our soul or spirit."

September 2023 & the forgotten Moises

(about Baleba) ‘I think he’s very close with Moises. Different because all players are different but he has the same quality, the same characteristics. He can become as good a player as Moises Caicedo.’

October 2023 & the forgotten Moises

"We are conceding lots but listen, we have to speak honestly," he said in his post-match press conference. "We lost Caicedo, we lost very important characteristics.
"We are playing in a different way because only Baleba can play with the same characteristics as Caicedo. Baleba is not ready yet. We are not ready to compete and to play every three days.

Early December 2023 & the forgotten Moises
"It's my responsibility and decision when one of them has to play and when the other doesn't.
"In the last transfer market, we sold [Moises] Caicedo, [Alexis] Mac Alliser and [Levi] Colwill was on loan, but he played a lot of us last year.
"We lost three important, crucial players and one part of my work is to help the young players to become better because the policy of Brighton is like this. If I accept working here, I have to manage in that direction."

Late December 2023 & the forgotten Moises
“We lost Caicedo and Mac Allister and, at this moment, maybe Billy Gilmour and Joao Pedro are not the same level yet, but they can reach the same level or maybe better.

“Joao Pedro has different characteristics to Alexis, because Alexis last season played a lot as the No 10 and we had a lot of control of the game.

“Now we are playing with four attackers. We are more vertical. If you go faster to score, we can concede at the same speed on the counter-attack.

“If you don’t have one player with the same (defensive) characteristics as Moises, we can concede more goals, but the goals we’ve conceded are more about the mentality, the attitude, because we’ve conceded a lot of goals that we shouldn’t have conceded.

“We haven’t had one clean sheet, but in the Europa League we’ve had four in a row, and I think the most important problem has been the mentality not to concede a goal.”

March 2024 & the forgotten Moises
"I've never lost a game [against Klopp] because its a coincidence. Liverpool has won against every team, in Premier League, in Europe. I think against Liverpool last season we played very well. We deserved to win, especially at home."
"This season at Amex we played another important, very good game.
"Now I think we are in a different moment than last season or the beginning of this season.

"First of all, between the Anfield game - my first game - until now, it has been 18-19 months. 19-18 months of work every day, of the focus on the squad every day, of the improvement we have had to do.
And then it has changed because we lost some players in that first eleven. Sanchez, Trossard, Mac Allister, Caicedo. We have new, different players. Totally different history."

Good luck to one of my favourite managers, will try and take in a Marseilles away game next season
Try to get one before November so he's still around.
 


Bold Seagull

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True. That was awful.

But we were only there in the first place because he got us into Europe and qualified us top of the group.

Brighton fans grousing about not beating Roma will never not be funny.
Thought the players had a large part in that. As it proved over the last 7 months, without the players we went back to being ordinary.
 








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Your consistent argument for why Potter came good.
Except at Chelsea, where he had a billionaire funded squad and two of his Brighton recruitment team and had a win percentage worse than RDZ’s here.

How do you think Hürzeler will do with our squad? That’s where I’m looking. RDZ is done here and Potter even more so.
 


Han Solo

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Combustible manager meets THE MOST combustible fan base, this should be fun! If he lasts the season I will be surprised.
Certainly going to be a different experience from him compared to coaching sleepy Italian village teams, riding around on the only horse in Ukraine or coaching in front of the upper middle class on the English south coast. Weekly comments about how small the club is or making excuses about past players leaving etc... its not going to produce the same shrugs it did in Sassuolo or Brighton.

I hope he doesn't do a Bielsa and leave after a few days when realising Marseille won't be able to sign endless amounts of people from Robertos Youtube playlist.
 




Bold Seagull

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Except at Chelsea, where he had a billionaire funded squad and two of his Brighton recruitment team and had a win percentage worse than RDZ’s here.

How do you think Hürzeler will do with our squad? That’s where I’m looking. RDZ is done here and Potter even more so.
As with the previous 2 managers, both of whom I rated and both equally disappointed with how they left, it will largely depend on the players he will have available and how the squad respond to a 31 year old (younger than a few of them) sharing their ideas.

Our form nose dived because when the going got tough, RDZ didn't get going. He was brilliant with things going well, but toys out of the pram when it wasn't.

Huzeler has the summer to bed in, but he doesn't take over with us riding high in confidence, scoring goals for fun, and feeling we could beat anyone. He's got a big summer ahead of him.
 


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Certainly going to be a different experience from him compared to coaching sleepy Italian village teams, riding around on the only horse in Ukraine or coaching in front of the upper middle class on the English south coast. Weekly comments about how small the club is or making excuses about past players leaving etc... its not going to produce the same shrugs it did in Sassuolo or Brighton.

I hope he doesn't do a Bielsa and leave after a few days when realising Marseille won't be able to sign endless amounts of people from Robertos Youtube playlist.
I think of everyone on NSC you’ll care the most. There’ll be daily reminders, threads every time they lose, while the rest of us carry on supporting Brighton.

That bruise is never coming off your ego, is it?
 




Flounce

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I think of everyone on NSC you’ll care the most. There’ll be daily reminders, threads every time they lose, while the rest of us carry on supporting Brighton.

That bruise is never coming off your ego, is it?
The comments on the post you have quoted are not off the mark though. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. I wish RDZ well and hope he does well there. His reactions to defeats will be good to see though imo. Are Marseille in Europe this season?

I have never heard Brighton fans referred to as upper middle class before though :smile:
 




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The comments on the post you have quoted are not off the mark though. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. I wish RDZ well and hope he does well there. His reactions to defeats will be good to see though imo. Are Marseille in Europe this season?
His description of Brighton and particularly Shaktar are borderline offensive and definitely trolling.

The Marseille ultras will love him to start with but I can’t see it lasting a season either. Mental fanbase and a club that hires and fires like Watford.
 


Mr Phil

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I have never heard Brighton fans referred to as upper middle class before though :smile:
I was once told we are the choice of Londoners who wanted to move out of the city and settle down.
Not sure how I feel about that on a number of different levels
 


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