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[Football] De Zerbi offers to resign as Marseilles coach



Zeberdi

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Amazing the vitriol on here about the only manager in BHAFC history ever to deliver those incredible moments.

Yes he's a flawed individual. To misquote the bible: He who's not got a bit of a dick tendancies, throw the first post.

Almost as bad as the anti-Potter rhetoric.

Both had their good points and both were not perfect. Hughton after Hyypia absolute dross was brilliant. Potter after CH relegation fodder football, was a revelation. RDZ after Potter toothless attacks was phenomenal.

I loved them all at their times.
No vitriol from me or denial of our peak achievements to date under RDZ but this is his MO - impose his demanding, overly complicated system on a team then blame the Club for poor performances because they’ve not invested enough in quality players that can execute the system.

Trotting out the same popular memes on here “but oh he wasn’t perfect’ or ‘he had good points and bad points’, ‘what vitriol this is!’ tells us nothing. The same can be said of every single manager and player, heck every human being on the planet but one has to recognise what those good and bad points are and so do fans and Clubs in order to understand how we progress. Over time we do progress, so do most players and managers but not every Club does - many clubs go backwards - we are lucky enough to have an owner that is taking us forward and one of the reasons for that is our excellent succession recruitment of managers that can take us forward another step in our development.

Hürzeler too has ‘good points’ ( flexible, humility and not wedded to a system but wedded to the players) and ‘bad points’ (leaky in defence, too aggressive in attack at times, sometimes poor substitute decisions etc).

I trust in the process, trust in TB/ PBOBE and hoping Hürzeler will take us to the next level in the coming few seasons.
 




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Well aware, H but I thought he'd got into another ding dong as HS more recently, the usual NSC wagons circled again, and the redskin bandit was driven off into the Sverige hillsides/savannah to lick his gunshot wounds.
He’s a big boy and gives just as well as he gets. He’s not banned or under any other sanction. He just hasn’t logged on.

I’d have expected him to be all over this thread like a tramp on chips.

Maybe he’s cleaning his flat?
 






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When you lose at home (again) it’s far better just to suck your teeth and mutter “it is what it is”.
Or just have a pop at the fans.

I gain no satisfaction from RdZ not doing well (or as well as he wants to), still gave me some of my most memorable moments in 50 years of supporting.

Good luck to him.
 






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Only read the first few posts of this thread but how sad to see so many turn on Roberto. Yes he (apparently) had a row with the board over player investment here but he still gave me the most thrilling couple of seasons I’ve had as an Albion supporter. I love the bloke and always will.

And Marseilles are 2nd, Auxerre are now in the European places. Hardly a giant killing.
 


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Well I still miss him. Still the best ever Albion manager. One of few managers that has the presence and charisma to get immediate respect of players young and old.
 








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He was the best we have ever had in our history so yes he is a top class coach/manager to say he’s not is just silly. I always remember Declan Rice saying I don’t ever want to feel like that on a football pitch again their patterns of play made it impossible to get near them.

He Provided the best football any Albion fan has witnessed young or old.
Whatever views you may have you can’t take away that from him Brighton in the Europa league was incredible.
Before our unprecedented injury pile up we had started last season like we had finished the last no injuries that season and who knows.
I have a different view, his ego ran away with him. i find it incredible that any Albion fan can accept the shit he spouted as OK, when the club didn’t agree to him changing the model that Bloom has built. But carry on.

He was amazing until this happened, but a dead man walking as soon as he went head to head with TB on the model
 
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Herr Tubthumper

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He was the best we have ever had in our history so yes he is a top class coach/manager to say he’s not is just silly. I always remember Declan Rice saying I don’t ever want to feel like that on a football pitch again their patterns of play made it impossible to get near them.

He Provided the best football any Albion fan has witnessed young or old.
Whatever views you may have you can’t take away that from him Brighton in the Europa league was incredible.
Before our unprecedented injury pile up we had started last season like we had finished the last no injuries that season and who knows.
I agree with most of this. But your post also hints at my key issue with him, great when things were going well, unprofessional, prickly and neglectful when they weren’t. I have always believed you see true ability and strength when things are not going to plan, in this sense he failed . As Alex Ferguson said, it’s easy to manage a winning team.
 


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I have a different view, his ego ran away with him. i find it incredible that any Albion fan can accept the shit he spouted, as OK, when the club didn’t agree to him changing the model that Bloom has built. But carry on.

He was amazing until this happened, but a dead man walking as soon as he went head to head with TB on the model
Any Brighton fan knows there’ll only be one winner anyway, and given how he’d just been completely humiliated in his home country, he just had nowhere to go when asked….

I love RdZ, the passion etc… polar opposite to Potter who I also respect as a good coach, but I just never warmed to him…..
 


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Any Brighton fan knows there’ll only be one winner anyway, and given how he’d just been completely humiliated in his home country, he just had nowhere to go when asked….

I love RdZ, the passion etc… polar opposite to Potter who I also respect as a good coach, but I just never warmed to him…..
I was a fan of both until the end of their tenures, both can now f*** off (along with Bruno :wink:) :smile:
 








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But who doesn't like a bit of schadenfreude?

Of course I felt regret when he left. But then it transpires that he's been flogging our players like 1930s Yorkshire pit ponies. Our entire medical team is then mysteriously replaced. Complicit?

And when asked what it is like working with the new manager (young Fab) our number 2 goal keeper lets slip that "It's like a breath of fresh air".

I think some of us are allowed the occasional chuckle at the Italian's latest folly. Even if we felt like we had been jilted at the time by a young buck who found us a little too prim. ???

Oh I agree Harry. Hughton was and is not up to the modern game and had reached his use-by date.

Potter, love what he did but not the way he left (the Judas c-nut) and where he went to.

RDZ had smoke blown so far up his own arse by the media, pundits, Pep and himself he had smoke rings coming out his ears.

As I said, brilliant for us at their time, but flawed individuals (not like is eh? 😜).
 


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I think the partial quote above is a bit misleading. He seems much more sincere in the full quote.
Yep, nothing like taking something out of context to score a point. Yes, he left dejected and let his feelings affect the sqaud and clearly has some ego issues to deal with. But he certainly isn't crap at his job. We got to Europe, had our best ever finish, and got to the knockout stage of the Europa Cup. Last season was a hell year for injuries and we had nowhere near the depth of squad we have now. One thing you can never accuse him of is lacking integrity, he was absolutely correct in his assessment of our squad strength and he didn't shy away from telling it how it is. I have no doubt that if he really feels Marseille are better off without him he will resign.
 






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"Before Marseille's opening game of the season, Robert De Zerbi used a projector to display a blurred-out contract offer from Manchester United in front of his squad.

He told his players: “This is where I could have been, but I put my passion before money. I came to Marseille for the passion." [L'equipe]
 


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