[Football] De Zerbi offers to resign as Marseilles coach

[jcdenton08]

But never in them….

The only way "winning the group" is an achivement is if you have low ambitions.

Low ambitions, if you think that’s a success. touché

 

[Flounce]

Low ambitions, if you think that’s a success. touché

No but I know he had a much weaker squad until just before he left and was doing as well with it as RDZ who inherited it did.

As I said both were good for us, it’s not a f***ing competition! One is not the Messiah and the other a Devil…..just imo

 

[jcdenton08]

No but I know he had a much weaker squad until just before he left and was doing as well with it as RDZ who inherited it did.

As I said both were good for us, it’s not a f***ing competition! One is not the Messiah and the other a Devil…..just imo

Potter did good for the club by changing the style of football from defend for our lives, to trying to keep possession.

His league finishes don’t lie, the long winless runs. He served a purpose, and it’s fortunate Chelsea came in for him so we could upgrade when we did. With the momentum of a good start, RDZ took the club to the next level.

 

[Flounce]

Rumours, could be bullshit of course, of Chelsea considering RDZ as Maresca’s replacement next season. If true, an absolute car crash in waiting after a brief love in.

 

[Flounce]

Potter did good for the club by changing the style of football from defend for our lives, to trying to keep possession.

His league finishes don’t lie, the long winless runs. He served a purpose, and it’s fortunate Chelsea came in for him so we could upgrade when we did. With the momentum of a good start, RDZ took the club to the next level.

and you KNOW Potter wouldn’t have achieved the same if he’d stayed?

I’m not sure he was an upgrade but he was the right man at the right time.

I can pretty well guarantee that we would not have got stuffed in Rome the way we did if GP had been in charge

 

[jcdenton08]

and you KNOW Potter wouldn’t have achieved the same if he’d stayed?

Well, the previous attempts finished in 15th, 16th and 9th, so evidence based on his previous performance didn’t suggest it. It was very early in the season when he left, and he’d had good starts before and tailed off with long droughts.

 

[Flounce]

Well, the previous attempts finished in 15th, 16th and 9th, so evidence based on his previous performance didn’t suggest it. It was very early in the season when he left, and he’d had good starts before and tailed off with long droughts.

OK I give up

 

[Han Solo]

Well, the previous attempts finished in 15th, 16th and 9th, so evidence based on his previous performance didn’t suggest it. It was very early in the season when he left, and he’d had good starts before and tailed off with long droughts.

Would you say there are any other factors than the manager deciding the league position of a football team?

 

[peterward]

Absolutely this. We, little old Brighton and Hove Albion, not only competed in a European competition with AEK Athens, Marseilles and Ajax Amsterdam .... but we finished top of that group. Even five years prior to that it would have seemed unbelievable, let alone at any other time in our past. Why do people want to belittle it? Very British thing to do I guess.

Its not belitting it.... if you take the heritage and the history of Brighton v Ajax, of course its a massive deal.

If you're being honest simply about the 2 sets of 11 players, and nothing more, we were better than them by a distance.

Their 11 was miles worse than previous seasons, similarly now, beating Man U today is not same as beating Man U of Fergies generation.

Its still Man U though.

 

[jcdenton08]

Would you say there are any other factors than the manager deciding the league position of a football team?

I absolutely would say that. Things like the quality of players. Chelsea, for example, are considered to have had better players than us during Potter’s tenure there.

Unfortunately for him, he was sacked due to poor performance.

Which I’m sure you’ll agree just goes to prove how important a good manager/head coach of a team is having a successful season.

Potter: 15th, 16th, 9th, best: FA Cup Round 5, League Cup Round 4.

De Zerbi: 6th, 11th, best: FA Cup Semi Final, League Cup Round 4. Edit: whoops, forgot won European group containing both Marseilles and Ajax

Both after selling Caicedo and Cucurella - our back to back players of the season, to Chelsea.

 

[Han Solo]

I absolutely would say that. Things like the quality of players. Chelsea, for example, are considered to have had better players than us during Potter’s tenure there.

Unfortunately for him, he was sacked due to poor performance.

Which I’m sure you’ll agree just goes to prove how important a good manager/head coach of a team is having a successful season.

Potter: 15th, 16th, 9th, best: FA Cup Round 5, League Cup Round 4.

De Zerbi: 6th, 11th, best: FA Cup Semi Final, League Cup Round 4. Edit: whoops, forgot won European group containing both Marseilles and Ajax

Both after selling Caicedo and Cucurella - our back to back players of the season, to Chelsea.

Ok. Interesting takes on reality, as always. Life is like a video game, huh? Very binary and free from context. "Win = best, lose = worst".

Brighton & Hove Albion was considered to have a better squad in 2023 compared to 2019.
Could this have had some impact on the 2019/20 season being "mediocre" and the 2021/2022 and 2022/23 seasons not being mediocre?

Do you believe Chelsea is a club that makes sensible and rational decisions? If not, why do you use their decision making as evidence for these ideas of yours?

 

[jcdenton08]

Ok. Interesting takes on reality, as always. Life is like a video game, huh? Very binary and free from context. "Win = best, lose = worst".

Brighton & Hove Albion was considered to have a better squad in 2023 compared to 2019.
Could this have had some impact on the 2019/20 season being "mediocre" and the 2021/2022 and 2022/23 seasons not being mediocre?

Do you believe Chelsea is a club that makes sensible and rational decisions? If not, why do you use their decision making as evidence for these ideas of yours?

Why would a manager with more knowledge than me join a club who he knows doesn’t make sensible and rational decisions? Doesn’t seem a very intelligent thing to do. Maybe he’s not very bright?

 

[Brovion]

Its not belitting it.... if you take the heritage and the history of Brighton v Ajax, of course its a massive deal.

If you're being honest simply about the 2 sets of 11 players, and nothing more, we were better than them by a distance.

Their 11 was miles worse than previous seasons, similarly now, beating Man U today is not same as beating Man U of Fergies generation.

Its still Man U though.

Firstly if they were good they would have been in the Champions' League. But leaving that aside I think you've missed the point to an extent. Yes, we were better than them. Us. Brighton. Playing in Europe and better than Ajax Amsterdam. I still rub my eyes when I see that final Group Table.