arsenal seem to have a habit of producing young players with chips on their shoulders,cole bentley pennant etc-im all for what wenger has done for us but it seems the arsenal way of doing things with dignity seems to have passed them by.the whole sky/money thing seems to have kicked the pride and passion out of the game.its players with this kind of attitude that make the england team what it is.the fa should stipulate that any english player who refuses to play for their country at any level should be banned from the domestic game unless injured