[Albion] Danny Welbeck, should we? [18/10: we did - one year deal] - *** NEW ONE YEAR DEAL ***

[Surf's Up]

A household name, reaching the end of his career, hits form playing for a club who struggle to score.
We have certainly made an offer, I would imagine any decent agent would be negotiating furiously for the best possible deal.

One of those where both parties want it to work, but neither are going to be mugged off.
As likely to be about length of contract as much as anything.
Could take a while.

This, although the notion of a "decent" agent is amusing (I know, that's not what you meant!) - if there's a delay it will more likely than not be caused my his agent trying to get one last payday from representing his client!

 

[crodonilson]

According to my mate Dirty Barry, Welbz wants a three year deal and we're only willing to offer 2 and we are some way apart on how much basic pay and that related to appearances.

 

[peterward]

Doesn't fit their transfer profile - not old enough.

Not the best with his head either, so not sure he's the answer to punts and long balls

 

[chaileyjem]

We have certainly made an offer

Yes. Its not speculation. We have formally offered DW a contract. Confirmed here. (what length of contract/whether he accepts - remains to be seen)
https://www.premierleague.com/news/2163099/?sf246496962=1
https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/19344789.paul-barber-love-danny-welbeck-stay-brighton/

 

[Mancgull]

According to my mate Dirty Barry, Welbz wants a three year deal and we're only willing to offer 2 and we are some way apart on how much basic pay and that related to appearances.

Hopefully we can find a solution somewhere between these two positions. Eg a signing on fee and a two year deal with a compromise on basic pay and appearance related.
However, I expect we are also looking at other options, as will Danny's agent.
Danny did well for us last season but there are other strikers out there that could be a value option where a reasonable transfer fee and less wages will be a decent alternative. I'm sure we are keen to make this happen, but we aren't desperate.
What I would hope is that if we are close to something which is acceptable to Danny, that the goodwill from him playing regularly last season will mean that we win the battle against other interested parties.

 

[b.w.2.]

If true, Welbs asking for 3 years is a bit cheeky; his injury record suggests that cannot be justified for ANY club.


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[Uh_huh_him]

Hopefully we can find a solution somewhere between these two positions. Eg a signing on fee and a two year deal with a compromise on basic pay and appearance related.
However, I expect we are also looking at other options, as will Danny's agent.
Danny did well for us last season but there are other strikers out there that could be a value option where a reasonable transfer fee and less wages will be a decent alternative. I'm sure we are keen to make this happen, but we aren't desperate.
What I would hope is that if we are close to something which is acceptable to Danny, that the goodwill from him playing regularly last season will mean that we win the battle against other interested parties.

Exactly, which is why I suspect the negotiations to take a long time.
Both parties will think they have the upper hand and won't be pushed into a bad deal, whilst acknowledging a contract extension is appealing.

I wouldn't be surprised if his starting position were to be 3 years @ £110k pw.
If any other team want to offer him that, he will be gone.
But I would rather my club was looking at other options if they have that kind of dough to spend.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

If true, Welbs asking for 3 years is a bit cheeky; his injury record suggests that cannot be justified for ANY club.


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If true ?

This info is from Dirty Barry that Crodo knows from the pub.

Do you think it is true ?

 

[b.w.2.]

If true ?

This info is from Dirty Barry that Crodo knows from the pub.

Do you think it is true ?

I could believe an Agent might try to take the p1ss yes!?


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[Blue Valkyrie]

I could believe an Agent might try to take the p1ss yes!?


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Yes, but there is no evidence other than Dirty Barry from the pub.

It might as well have been overheard in the bus queue at the Amex.

 

[zefarelly]

Always wonder why it takes so long, surely it is a best a ten minute conversation.
You both go into a meeting with your requirements and boundaries.

You offer, they so no, you counter, back and forth for five minutes and bingo deal or no deal.
All this protraction is ultimately bollox in 95% of every negotiation, and it only takes so long because the agent has to justify his or her fee.

It should be like buying a car . . .advertised 14500, I have 12k . . . seller can move but not that much . . . meet half way ? deal done. 5 minute job.

agents are generally the poison in the chain.

 

[vagabond]

This is how agents make their money isn’t it.

I have no idea of the finances behind it, but as a player, a human being and a good pro to have around our club I would have no qualms offering Welbeck a 2 year deal.

 

[GT49er]

I wouldn't be surprised if his starting position were to be 3 years @ £110k pw.

If that was the case, I would really hope the club's answer was 'Dream on!'

 

[crodonilson]

Yes, but there is no evidence other than Dirty Barry from the pub.

It might as well have been overheard in the bus queue at the Amex.

To be fair it was Dirty Barry who broke it to me last summer that we were one of four or five clubs interested in Welbz after Watford were relegated.

 

[amexer]

Mad to give him 3 year contract With his record lucky to get 2

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

I love that it is now an accepted "fact" he is after £110k and a 3 year deal.

 

[Weststander]

This is how agents make their money isn’t it.

I have no idea of the finances behind it, but as a player, a human being and a good pro to have around our club I would have no qualms offering Welbeck a 2 year deal.

It’s no more a financial punt than giving 5 year contracts to hitherto unknowns from the Eredivisie.

 

[*Gullsworth*]

I love that it is now an accepted "fact" he is after £110k and a 3 year deal.

I don't think any club would give him a three year contract & £110k / year.
I would think a 2 year deal max and a pay per play type deal would be the offer from Brighton. Nowwhere near £110k from us.

 

[AZ Gull]

I love that it is now an accepted "fact" he is after £110k and a 3 year deal.

You've gotta love NSC sometimes!

 

[chaileyjem]

I love that it is now an accepted "fact" he is after £110k and a 3 year deal.

ha ! What is a fact, perhaps not all that accepted is that actually our average wage bill is £48K per week. That might give you some context here.
http://priceoffootball.com/brighton-2019-20-reel-around-the-fountain/