[Albion] Dan Ashworth joins Newcastle

[Mancgull]

Bloom is always the lovely fellow Albion fan to us, but i don't doubt that a businessman as rich and successful as he is also capable of ruthlessness. He showed that with White to Leeds, there was simply no way they were going to get one over on him once it became personal.

I wouldnt be at all surprised if DA tries to come back in for our Crown Jewells like Biss, Tross or maybe even GP. I'd also not be surprised that even if Newcastle was best offer, Bloom doesnt sanction it.

I do believe the loyalty thing is important, great friend, fantastic boss, but get on the wrong side of him and he wont forget.

I have no doubt that you are 'bang on' here. Nice cuddly TB when Dan Burn goes through the right channels when he'd like to go back to Newcastle as his family lives there, and it's hometown club. Dan is 'relaxed about it' and does the right thing. Tony sanctions it if Newcastle meet our price.
However, if there's any breakdown in trust then we see the Bloom that dealt with the Poyet sacking, Ben White& Leeds saga and ultimate sale to Arsenal. You don't become a self made Billionaire without having a ruthless streak, and I bloody love Tony's ruthlessness in terms of his ownership of our beloved BHA.
Off you pop DA, when you've served your Garden leave, and top, top dollar if we want any of our players, and don't breach your contract or else.

 

[erkan]

Now is the time we will find out how good Ashworth actually was.

Was he the man who has made everything happen at the club and going to be a huge loss, or was he in a great situation surrounded by a great team, owner and CEO who made it happen.

My guess is somewhere inbetween, but we are going to find out.

Complete opposite surely? Whoever replaces him the club will continue on a very similar path to what it would have done if Ashworth was still in post. So many moving parts it will be impossile to discern any real Ashworth effect. My guess is we'll manage just fine without the clearly bankrupt Mr Cashworth.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Bloom is always the lovely fellow Albion fan to us, but i don't doubt that a businessman as rich and successful as he is also capable of ruthlessness. He showed that with White to Leeds, there was simply no way they were going to get one over on him once it became personal.

I wouldnt be at all surprised if DA tries to come back in for our Crown Jewells like Biss, Tross or maybe even GP. I'd also not be surprised that even if Newcastle was best offer, Bloom doesnt sanction it.

I do believe the loyalty thing is important, great friend, fantastic boss, but get on the wrong side of him and he wont forget.

Teams are well aware of Biss, Trossard and GP without needing a director of football to tell them. It's not like they're a little gem of a secret. Any contractual info. he may know, likewise could easily be shared from the player's agents to NUFC, so again the damage from DA is limited really.

Not sure anything got personal with the White to Leeds saga, but it did show, as occurred with Stephens, that if Bloom doesn't want to sell, he won't. Ben White and Dan Burn also showed that if the price is right, the club will do the best for themselves and the player.

 

[Dibdab]

Nasty Karma will hopefully come to everyone who willingly chooses to work for a regime knowing it has horrific murder and human rights abuses on it's hand.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Ashworth was here for 3 years and leaves the club in a better place than when he came, and for that he deserves praise. He was the right man at the right time.

This news is disappointing but inevitable. I also think that the project at Newcastle is a unique type of challenge, while the Albion project is a long way to being completed. That said, he will be working with amateurs as their botched pursuit of managers and players shows, so he will have his work cut out. Compare that to the dream of working alongside Tony Bloom and Paul Barber at the Albion.

I'm also mindful that former Chelsea TD Michael Emenalo was their first choice too, so if things go tits up for Dan it is clear where they will turn to.

I don't agree with taking the blood money though,

 

[blockhseagull]

Complete opposite surely? Whoever replaces him the club will continue on a very similar path to what it would have done if Ashworth was still in post. So many moving parts it will be impossile to discern any real Ashworth effect. My guess is we'll manage just fine without the clearly bankrupt Mr Cashworth.

Guess that is my point … IF Ashworth is really that good we will notice a change, if he wasn’t all that he will be adequately replaced by someone who will keep everything moving as is, which will mean he isn’t all that great a loss

 

[dazzer6666]

Per the Clubs statement:


I'm sure Tony, as has been pointed out, values loyalty and integrity so will max the 'extended' to the max. Plus had all his laptops, securty passes and BHA neckties taken off of him. A bit closing the door after the horse and all that, but at least he won't be up to date on the latest club targets.

Just wondering how long that 'extended' is, 3 months? 6 months? Hope it is 6 months and time to get a few of the targets nailed down, especially the Enciso lad.

Tricky running a business in such a field thats awash with money where your best talented workers can be poached for megabucks.

That'll be 'extended' as in 'long' - essentially Tony putting it out there that he's keeping him to his notice period per his contract. He wouldn't be able to 'extend' it past that.

 

[Mancgull]

His Garden Leave could be 3months, and possibly 6months. Cant see anything other than those two options.

 

[British Bulldog]

Bloom is always the lovely fellow Albion fan to us, but i don't doubt that a businessman as rich and successful as he is also capable of ruthlessness. He showed that with White to Leeds, there was simply no way they were going to get one over on him once it became personal.

I wouldnt be at all surprised if DA tries to come back in for our Crown Jewells like Biss, Tross or maybe even GP. I'd also not be surprised that even if Newcastle was best offer, Bloom doesnt sanction it.

I do believe the loyalty thing is important, great friend, fantastic boss, but get on the wrong side of him and he wont forget.

I really cant see Ashworth coming back to poach our best players it's not what he does? at West Brom he created a decent Academy, For England he brought success to the younger teams, at Brighton he improved the positions of our younger and Women's teams along with bringing in some of the best young players we have ever signed.

 

[KZNSeagull]

I think the key thing here is how much DA knows about any "unique" methods of player identification that may be employed by the club and how portable those methods are. I would imagine that TB is very selective with whom he shares certain information following the Matthew Benham affair so I would doubt that anyone at BHA knows the entire inner workings of any methods that may have come from or been adapted from Star Lizard for example. I would imagine that those methods, if they exist, are unique to TB's businesses and he would do his utmost for them to stay that way. With that in mind, I doubt that DA is in any position to replicate any advantage that the club has in that regard elsewhere.

 

[Creaky]

His Garden Leave could be 3months, and possibly 6months. Cant see anything other than those two options.

Probably take that long to find somewhere to live.

Jumped at the option to take “gardening leave” - getting paid for a few months between jobs is always useful. Much harder if an employer insists you serve out your notice but takes away all your privileges and responsibilities so you are essentially sat at an empty desk all day with nothing to do.

 

[Baldrick]

His job is to oversee all footballing operations and at Newcastle he will be given a open cheque book to make those things as successful as possible. I can only imagine that this opportunity excites him and at this moment is probably the optimum role in world football given the recent take over. His salary will be massive compared to what he is already on.

Sadly you are right 100%.

If DA is allowed to set things up from scratch exactly how he wants to, Newcastle will have a fantastic set up (training/medical facilities and recruitment team) within isay 3 years. Thats what he did at St Georges Park and he is good enough to do it again.

If Newcastle appont an experienced top quality CEO and gives him/her free reign to run the club/marketing operations, the Saudis can just sit back and sadly sports wash their money.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Probably take that long to find somewhere to live.

Jumped at the option to.take “gardening leave” - getting paid for a few moths between jobs is always useful. Much harder if an employer insists you serve out your notice but takes away all your privileges and responsibilities so you are essentially sat at an empty desk all day with nothing to do.

I doubt that. Ponteland is village of choice for PL and ex PL players. Failing that there are loads of lovely places up here for him to live.

 

[Creaky]

I doubt that. Ponteland is village of choice for PL and ex PL players. Failing that there are loads of lovely places up here for him to live.

Yep - worded that wrong - not “find a place to live” but “buy a place to live” - lucky if he can do that in three months.

 

[dazzer6666]

Probably take that long to find somewhere to live.

Jumped at the option to take “gardening leave” - getting paid for a few months between jobs is always useful. Much harder if an employer insists you serve out your notice but takes away all your privileges and responsibilities so you are essentially sat at an empty desk all day with nothing to do.

Gardening leave is great if you can get it when you're not rushing into a new job - but not so much if you've got a new job to go to that you've been headhunted for.............Ashworth will undoubtedly have tried to get an early release

 

[Dibdab]

His Garden Leave could be 3months, and possibly 6months. Cant see anything other than those two options.

Good hopefully they will be a championship team when he takes over.

 

[Insel affe]

He has by all accounts done a very good job, and left us in a better position than he joined us, so a thank you is in order.
Thank you.

However, is he irreplaceable ? Nope, no one is.
I am confident lists of replacements are already identified throughout the whole background staff positions.

Will I wish him well in his new job, nah, as i am childish and hate Newcastle, and everything it now stands for.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Football fans are very good protestors when it comes to their own club. Us with Archer, Prescott et al. The Euro Super League. Bad ownership at Blackpool or Charlton. They are less good at organising to protest a single issue at another club, especially when they may be in hock to another Middle Eastern state, a Russian Oligarch, a foreign gangster. I'm sure you see how that might work. So, I say don't take to the street specifically about Newcastle, but rather ramp up pressure on the PL to make the ownership test worth the paper it's written on. That needs co-ordination. I wonder if anyone on this board knows anyone at, say, the FSF?

Yes. That would be excellent

 

[Nobby Nomates]

I thought I'd read somewhere (a while ago, tbh) that he was on a 12 month rolling contract, like Barber. If that's the case, he won't be going to Newcastle until Tony is satisfied the threat to us is minimised, or he no longer feels pissed off

 

[Jim in the West]

Gardening leave is great if you can get it when you're not rushing into a new job - but not so much if you've got a new job to go to that you've been headhunted for.............Ashworth will undoubtedly have tried to get an early release

I also think the club's statement is BHA's way of saying to the football world "don't deal with Ashworth for some time". I can imagine the content of that announcement has been noted in board rooms around the country, and if Ashworth tries to start talking to any other club (eg: about future transfers) it'll make its way back to TB and PB. Ashworth will have to play by the rules....which will probably be immensely frustrating for him (and hopefully Newcastle, too).