[Albion] crystal palace fans have lodged an official complaint against Sussex Police

[loz]

Yes I agree its embarrassing. But this is from the Palace supporters club...they are nothing to do with the so called "ultras"

Supporter clubs are not usually the sort of fans that cause trouble in my experience. (In fact I have read on here that sometimes your supporter club members have made embarrassing complaints before )

Anyway permission to hang my head and walkaway sighing !!

 

[kevo]

Will make sure ive emptied the bladder before we are kettled outside smellhurst. Can see us being kept outside for a long time before being marched back to Norwood Jct.

Was it 2002 they kept us there for well over an hour? Got to Norwood Jct about 7pm.

 

[oneillco]

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http://www.fsf.org.uk/latest-news/view/palace-fans-launch-complaint-sussex-police

Crystal Palace fans have lodged an official complaint against Sussex Police following their treatment at the club’s trip to Brighton & Hove Albion in November 2017.

Instructing specialist solicitors to act on their behalf - Crystal Palace Supporters’ Trust (CPST) argue that Crystal Palace supporters who had caused no trouble were subject to “extremely coercive policing”...

It's strange how it makes no mention of the pathetic actions of a lot of Palace which led to this situation. For example the large pack of black hooded yoofs scuttling around Brighton frightening the grannies and mums with prams 7 hours before KO, leaving a trail of spray paint and stickers.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

"what's up Bazza. You aint neckin ya Stella like you usually do on a Tuesday"
"I can't Dave. I'm fuming mate. Have you seen twitter? That Brighton copper is mugging us right off mate. He's only gone n promulgated shit about us."

Very well done sir!

 

[Hastings gull]

Whilst I agree that the Palace fans have a lot to answer for regarding storming the gates and forcing their way into the Amex, I do think that there are legitimate questions regarding the policing on the day. I’m going Saturday and have no intention of drinking anywhere near Selhurst. Why Palace Ultras felt the need to come to Brighton and not expect trouble/hassle I don’t know, but having said that, the policing of them from town to Amex does sound like a balls up. Clearly the statements from police post match were also a mistake and caused further angst. If it were the other way round I’m pretty sure we’d want some answers.


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Yes, that is true to an extent, Quinney -a small extent. The story of the weapons was a huge error, however it originated and I think it might be reasonable to question exactly what went wrong, if indeed it did. However, as you say, the blame lies entirely with the Palace mob, determined to be as difficult as possible. If you want to be part of it, then you accept the consequences. You quite legitimately want to have a few beers miles away and thus avoid any problems -it really is that simple IF you want to avoid problems.

 

[Hastings gull]

Yes I agree its embarrassing. But this is from the Palace supporters club...they are nothing to do with the so called "ultras"

Supporter clubs are not usually the sort of fans that cause trouble in my experience. (In fact I have read on here that sometimes your supporter club members have made embarrassing complaints before )

Anyway permission to hang my head and walkaway sighing !!

Sadly, it is the same old story over again. A minority of idiots, and all clubs have them, make life difficult for the majority through their antics. I imagine those smoke bombs must have been a real pain for most of the Palace fans affected, who, as we ,are decent folk.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

it's strange how it makes no mention of the pathetic actions of a lot of palace which led to this situation. For example the large pack of black hooded yoofs scuttling around brighton frightening the grannies and mums with prams 7 hours before ko, leaving a trail of spray paint and stickers.

their best efforts in years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivet0m-hdK8
regards
DR

 

[BensGrandad]

Not coincidentally at all. Its deliberately published now to amplify press interest.

I was being facetious.

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

I was being facetious.

Don't you mean vacuous

 

[Dolph Ins]

I was kettled outside the North Stand for 45 minutes as they escorted them to the station. Where do I complain?

 

[torchieboy]

The special train back south is 5.57 from Norwood Junction so guess there'll be a c45 min delay at least.

Spoke with Darren Balkham. Asked if we had to get on this special train as i want to go back to bognor st not brighton. Said no one will be forced to take this train. Lets see what the Met police do !!

 

[essbee1]

Spoke with Darren Balkham. Asked if we had to get on this special train as i want to go back to bognor st not brighton. Said no one will be forced to take this train. Lets see what the Met police do !!

Would be interested to see how this pans out. I know what my money is on.

 

[chaileyjem]

Spoke with Darren Balkham. Asked if we had to get on this special train as i want to go back to bognor st not brighton. Said no one will be forced to take this train. Lets see what the Met police do !!

yep.

It will depart Norwood Junction at 17:57 hours and call at Three Bridges, Hayward’s Heath & Brighton (18:46)
via https://twitter.com/BTPFootball/status/983678146401787904

 

[Driver8]

Spoke with Darren Balkham. Asked if we had to get on this special train as i want to go back to bognor st not brighton. Said no one will be forced to take this train. Lets see what the Met police do !!

Hope not I’m headed back to Euston for the train home!

 

[pastafarian]

Spoke with Darren Balkham. Asked if we had to get on this special train as i want to go back to bognor st not brighton. Said no one will be forced to take this train. Lets see what the Met police do !!

I suspect it will be the same as every other palace away game if you are using the train, frogmarched to the station where you can choose to get on any train you like.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Palace fans launch official complaint against Sussex Police

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Crystal Palace fans have lodged an official complaint against Sussex Police following their treatment at the club’s trip to Brighton & Hove Albion in November 2017.

Instructing specialist solicitors to act on their behalf - Crystal Palace Supporters’ Trust (CPST) argue that Crystal Palace supporters who had caused no trouble were subject to “extremely coercive policing”.

The Trust say that the events at the fixture on 28th November, which included blanket ‘kettling’ and escorting of Palace fans, have significantly damaged supporters’ trust and confidence in Sussex Police.

The letter says: “The CPST request that the failures as outlined are investigated thoroughly and that those officers responsible for these foreseeable failures are appropriately disciplined.”

Superintendent Simon Nelson has also been criticised for spreading false accusations against Palace fans who, he claimed on his Twitter account, had brought knives and knuckledusters to the fixture – an allegation Sussex Police later admitted was false.

“There has never been a public explanation for the source of the incorrect information promulgated by Supt. Nelson both in the press release and then in his tweets,” CPST said.

“It is unacceptable for an officer, and a senior officer no less, to put forward very serious allegations without evidence to back them up.”

A Freedom of Information request, submitted by the Five Year Plan Palace fanzine, seeking answers about the allegations has yet to be answered – despite the statutory limit for a response having long expired.

CPST’s letter to Sussex Police’s Head of Professional Standards was submitted by ITN solicitors, who have represented supporters previously in actions against the police. The FSF also provided financial and practical support.

“The Trust would like to thank all the fans who came forward to share their stories, and to supporters, and the FSF who (along with the Trust) co-funded this action,” CPST said yesterday. “The Trust would also like to help FYP Fanzine for their support.”

This is the original transcript, before the spell check

Paalce fnas launch ofcfiial coipalmnt aganist Sussex Police

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Crystal Paalce fans hvae logded an official coapilmnt aganist Sussex Police follwiong their treamtent at the club’s tirp to Brigthon & Hove Albion in Nobmever 2017.

Inrtiusctng spiicleast solotiicrs to act on their behalf - Crystal Palace Suoeptprrs’ Trust (CSPT) argue that Crytsal Palace surpotpers who had casued no trouble were sujbect to “extemrely coeicrve poicilng”.

The Trust say taht the evnets at the fitxure on 28th Noebmver, which included blanket ‘keltitng’ and esircotng of Paalce fans, have sinitcigfnaly daamged surpeptors’ trust and connfeidce in Sussex Poilce.

The letter syas: “The CSPT reuqest taht the fairlues as ouilnted are inietvstaged thhoorugly and taht those oficefrs rebssnipole for these foaeeserble faulries are aprptiroeaply diisncplied.”

Sutepeidrennnt Simon Nelson has aslo been crisictied for spareidng false acisuatocns aginast Palace fnas who, he climaed on his Twtiter acuocnt, had bruoght knvies and knsedeuctlkurs to the fiutxre – an altgeliaon Sussex Police later adtmited was false.

“There has never been a public exatanlpion for the soruce of the inercorct infmrtioaon praolutgmed by Supt. Neslon both in the press release and tehn in his tweets,” CSPT siad.

“It is unccatpaeble for an oficfer, and a seinor officer no lses, to put forawrd vrey seoirus allietgoans wihotut evendice to bcak tehm up.”

A Freedom of Infitaomron reueqst, sutimtbed by the Fvie Year Paln Paalce faiznne, seiekng aneswrs about the algiaoetlns has yet to be ansrewed – deipste the sttatuory limit for a response haivng lnog exirped.

CSPT’s letter to Sussex Poilce’s Haed of Prosiosfenal Stanardds was suttmibed by ITN soiltocirs, who hvae repsnrteeed sueptrpors pruoveisly in aciotns against the poilce. The FSF also prdoived finncaial and prcctaial support.

“The Trust would lkie to thank all the fans who came forawrd to share their stroies, and to suptpeorrs, and the FSF who (along with the Trust) co-funded this aciton,” CSPT siad yeertdsay. “The Trust would also like to help FYP Fanizne for their supoprt.”

 

[ofco8]

Will make sure ive emptied the bladder before we are kettled outside smellhurst. Can see us being kept outside for a long time before being marched back to Norwood Jct.

and that is why I will never visit that place again.

 

[Geestar]

Don't come back then

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[Wellesley]

Anyway permission to hang my head and walkaway sighing !!

Permission granted. It'll make a change from palace fans running away screaming. Know what I mean son? Oi Oi! Easy fella, bit dangerous, sweet as. Very naughty.

 

[Dancin Ninja BHA]

Was it 2002 they kept us there for well over an hour? Got to Norwood Jct about 7pm.

Correct - not only having to watch the shambles that was a 0-5 defeat, the slow, slow enforced walk back to Norwood Junction took the absolute piss.