Crazy own goal

[Triggaaar]

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[Goldstone Rapper]

Could you post the direct web link for those of us using NSC on Tapatalk?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2lQJiB4Bws

 

[Mr Burns]

It makes you wonder how the game is player and not just called off.

I've seen similar at Eastbourne Borough, where in strong wind a goal kick that is struck well, gets lifted up by the wind and sail over back the keeper who has taken the kicks cross bar.

 

[Triggaaar]

Could you post the direct web link for those of us using NSC on Tapatalk?

Sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2lQJiB4Bws

Thanks

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

What would happen if an attacker shoots and the goalkeeper stops the ball on the line so that the ball is still, but the wind then blows the ball in? Who would get their name on the scoresheet?

 

[brightn'ove]

What would happen if an attacker shoots and the goalkeeper stops the ball on the line so that the ball is still, but the wind then blows the ball in? Who would get their name on the scoresheet?

God

 

[Hatterlovesbrighton]

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If this had been a goal kick would this had been a own-goal or a corner? I'd say a corner.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

If this had been a goal kick would this had been a own-goal or a corner? I'd say a corner.

Definitely a corner (as learned from 'You Are The Ref') although I don't understand the rationale for why that is.

 

[Acker79]

Definitely a corner (as learned from 'You Are The Ref') although I don't understand the rationale for why that is.

Something to do with a goal kick being an indirect free kick and you can't score from an indirect free kick, so effectively the goal isn't there and the keeper has essentially just kicked it out for a corner.

EDIT: I take that back. Just looked up the rule. IT specifically states that a goal can only be scored directly from against the opposing team.
The ball is not in play until it leaves the penalty area.

So, I would presume, since it isn't in play until it has crossed the goal line (and thus left the penalty box), it can't be a goal, because for a goal to be scored, the ball has to be in play when it cross the goal line.

Since the ball has now left the field of play having been kicked by the goal keeper, it is a corner.

In case of incidents where the ball leaves the area from a goal kick before being blown back into the goal, I can't really say why it's a corner (other that reiterating the part about goals only being able to be scored against opposition from a goal kick), except perhaps that it's not been considered likely enough to account for in the laws, as mr burns says, the conditions for such a goal would probably dictate a game be abandoned, or perhaps it is to prevent people deliberately scoring own goals.

 

[petercg365]

Is that better or worse than Dunk's OG at Anfield?

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Surely no way could the goal have been given?!?!

 

[severnside gull]

Surely no way could the goal have been given?!?!

Why not? The ball was in play and the keeper put it across the line - no reason to disallow it although as Mr Burns said, the ref should (and who knows, maybe did?) call the game off in which case the goal wouldn't count.

 

[Acker79]

Something to do with a goal kick being an indirect free kick and you can't score from an indirect free kick, so effectively the goal isn't there and the keeper has essentially just kicked it out for a corner.

EDIT: I take that back. Just looked up the rule. IT specifically states that a goal can only be scored directly from against the opposing team.
The ball is not in play until it leaves the penalty area.

So, I would presume, since it isn't in play until it has crossed the goal line (and thus left the penalty box), it can't be a goal, because for a goal to be scored, the ball has to be in play when it cross the goal line.

Since the ball has now left the field of play having been kicked by the goal keeper, it is a corner.

In case of incidents where the ball leaves the area from a goal kick before being blown back into the goal, I can't really say why it's a corner (other that reiterating the part about goals only being able to be scored against opposition from a goal kick), except perhaps that it's not been considered likely enough to account for in the laws, as mr burns says, the conditions for such a goal would probably dictate a game be abandoned, or perhaps it is to prevent people deliberately scoring own goals.

I edited that post. Thought I'd reply to it and bump the thread in case anyone was interested.

 

[Triggaaar]

The ball is not in play until it leaves the penalty area.

So, I would presume, since it isn't in play until it has crossed the goal line (and thus left the penalty box), it can't be a goal, because for a goal to be scored, the ball has to be in play when it cross the goal line.

But it did leave the penalty area, and then it came back. And if it was a goal kick, does indirect relate to both goals, or just the opponents?

 

[Tenngull]

But it did leave the penalty area, and then it came back. And if it was a goal kick, does indirect relate to both goals, or just the opponents?

Not often I post on here but as an ex-ref trainer I think I can shed some light on this. As was said above, the laws specifically state you can only score against the opposing team from a goal kick, so no goal either way. (Same applies to kick-off, corner and direct free kick, by the way.)

At a goal kick the ball is not in play until it leaves the pen area, so if it were to blow back into the goal before that happens, it would be a re-take of the goal kick. If it went out of the area first, then it would be a corner. (Ball over goal-line last kicked by member of the defending team.)

Several tricky questions like this on the ref. exam. Most footy fans could get 70% just from common knowledge. It's these questions that sort out whether you really know the 'Laws of the Game'.

 

[Acker79]

But it did leave the penalty area, and then it came back. And if it was a goal kick, does indirect relate to both goals, or just the opponents?

I think indirect doesn't come into, I was initially mistaken about that. The law simply states that a goal can only be scored against opponents direct from goal kick.

The rest of my post is meant to explain possible thinking behind it (lawmakers not anticipating a likely situation in which a goal kick is taken that results in the ball leaving the area and still going in a keeper's own goal)

 

[Triggaaar]

Thanks for posting

 

[NMH]

Is that better or worse than Dunk's OG at Anfield?

Our lad JUGGLED the ball, playing keepy-uppy across the line.
That takes er.....FLAIR..... or something like that.

But I forgive you Dunky you PLONKER!!

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Not often I post on here but as an ex-ref trainer I think I can shed some light on this. As was said above, the laws specifically state you can only score against the opposing team from a goal kick, so no goal either way. (Same applies to kick-off, corner and direct free kick, by the way.)

At a goal kick the ball is not in play until it leaves the pen area, so if it were to blow back into the goal before that happens, it would be a re-take of the goal kick. If it went out of the area first, then it would be a corner. (Ball over goal-line last kicked by member of the defending team.)

Several tricky questions like this on the ref. exam. Most footy fans could get 70% just from common knowledge. It's these questions that sort out whether you really know the 'Laws of the Game'.

Does it make any difference if the goalkeeper touches the ball on its way into the net?