[Misc] COVIDIOTS hot spots

[Diallo]

Strongly suspect Diallo is actually a covid denier idiot who thinks they're being very clever right now.

I used to deny it, but since I've had a close one catch it plus my auntie give me the run down on what's happening in the hospital she works in up in London ( Royal free hospital I think?), I've changed my view on this for the better

 

[Weststander]

And fingers crossed that will be the case, but we have to always be ready for the next virus after this, so going back to the freedoms we once had would be potential suicide for future generations. What do we do if another virus strikes and we're doing exactly what we were before? Repeat this all over again? I really don't think/hope we'll be that naive to let everyone back to the old ways which enabled viruses to spread like they have.

I’m not complacent in the slightest, but the next might be in a 100 years. Or probably far sooner if the Chinese maintain their abhorrent wet markets and awful husbandry of fauna.

All civilised nations after this c.15 months of chaos and death, need to learn and learn quickly about the response to the next one. Hopefully in a joint effort, without point scoring and politics. What worked, what didn’t and the speed of response.

 

[sydney]

I’m not complacent in the slightest, but the next might be in a 100 years. Or probably far sooner if the Chinese maintain their abhorrent wet markets and awful husbandry of fauna.

All civilised nations after this c.15 months of chaos and death, need to learn and learn quickly about the response to the next one. Hopefully in a joint effort, without point scoring and politics. What worked, what didn’t and the speed of response.

unfortunately the chinese need to hold their hands up for this , monetary compensation should not be out of the question , they are an immensely wealthy entity and should have acted far more swiftly at the outset particularly with the allowing of their nationals to leave the country and spread the virus across the globe .......that is all water under the bridge now but the subsequent chest beating by xi ping and the trade war that has ensued due to the difficult questions being asked by the global community is rather distasteful and only fuels the mistrust that many westerners have of china.

 

[Rodney Thomas]

I know of one family that had 5 households mixing on christmas day, including 90+ year old grandad

Ditto, they wouldn't happen to be from Seaford would they?

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Any supermarket should be a no go right now. Loads of people swanning around in them as if a mask is all they need to do to fight this. The amount of bellends using supermarkets when they can instead get the food delivered, really grinds my gears.

Mrs DiS told me yesterday that Sainsbury’s are calling for non vulnerable people to go to the supermarket themselves to leave delivery slots for others who are more vulnerable or shielding or otherwise deserving.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Mrs DiS told me yesterday that Sainsbury’s are calling for non vulnerable people to go to the supermarket themselves to leave delivery slots for others who are more vulnerable or shielding or otherwise deserving.

Then Sainsburys need to tighten the **** up! West Hove Sainsburys was not too busy when I went last but they had closed half of the scan and pack self checkouts so everyone was forced into a small space at the end. Then I got spot checked and a member of staff touched loads of my shopping and I had to squeeze past a lot of people to get out. Not a good experience.

I do most of my shopping locally but tins, frozen and household stuff will be now ordered and delivered.

Edit: I should note this was at just after 8am, would not consider going any later than that. Carnage bow that they aren’t limiting numbers in store.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Boris can only tell us to stay indoors and isolate as much as possible. It's down to us to follow these orders and unfortunately the majority aren't. Instead they're constantly slating him whilst they happily venture into things like Supermarkets, football stadiums and parks. I saw 2 people from my window jogging today on my street. Unbelievable how people are still refusing to exercise at home during times like this, but they excuse themselves by blaming it all on Boris. This is the problem. Time we start blaming ourselves more, after all, actions speak louder than words.

Err ..... the rules allow two people to exercise outside together.

 

[PoG]

People who judge others and then moan on Internet forums about people going about their business.

People who go to house parties or big group events are ‘COVIDIOTS’, not those going to a garden centre or meeting up in a park for a socially distanced chat, don’t judge others situations, for some that might be the only thing that keeps them going through this utter hell many lonely people are living.

The only comment worth reading in this thread. Unbelievable someone is judging people for exercising outside.

 

[banjo]

Thanks and apologies if I misled you. I joined Tesco Delivery Saver in the summer to protect myself and Mrs Earle and get better access to slots. Works a treat and I have 4 weeks slots booked at any time. My point was that not only key workers etc should have access to slots, but everyone, who like me is a nervous Nelly where Covid is concerned. The supermarkets have upped their game but still more capacity needed.

During the first lockdown supermarkets opened an hour earlier for key workers, and I do believe elderly and vulnerable people. Not sure if they are offering this service again?

 

[timbha]

The only comment worth reading in this thread. Unbelievable someone is judging people for exercising outside.

So what do you think about 8 young men playing basketball in an area no bigger than a medium sized bedroom, with no shirts, masks or protective gear. All sweating and handling the same ball?

Concessions for exercise have been made to allow people to let off steam, not to socialise

 

[Albion 4ever]

With the cases and deaths rising to record levels, is it time to go back to March restrictions regarding shutting everything apart from supermarkets and schools?

All tradespeople are still working in this lockdown whereas that didn’t happen in March.

This is where the vicious circle has started with regard to people still working > sending kids to school > not staying at home > infections rise (surprise!)


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[banjo]

Heard on the news that there are people still insisting that it’s a hoax.

 

[PoG]

So what do you think about 8 young men playing basketball in an area no bigger than a medium sized bedroom, with no shirts, masks or protective gear. All sweating and handling the same ball?

Concessions for exercise have been made to allow people to let off steam, not to socialise

Well that's clearly moronic, socially distant jogging or walks up the downs is not.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Any supermarket should be a no go right now. Loads of people swanning around in them as if a mask is all they need to do to fight this. The amount of bellends using supermarkets when they can instead get the food delivered, really grinds my gears.

I totally agree there are some bell ends in supermarkets and people who think social distancing is for someone else!

Having said all that, you tried to get a delivery slot from any supermarket at the moment? Nothing from M&S, Waitrose, Sainsbury’s ( unless you have already had a delivery) Tesco’s. People did have to get in first time as they are not taking new instructions

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

unfortunately the chinese need to hold their hands up for this , monetary compensation should not be out of the question , they are an immensely wealthy entity and should have acted far more swiftly at the outset particularly with the allowing of their nationals to leave the country and spread the virus across the globe .......that is all water under the bridge now but the subsequent chest beating by xi ping and the trade war that has ensued due to the difficult questions being asked by the global community is rather distasteful and only fuels the mistrust that many westerners have of china.

Takes two to tango on that one. It's up to other countries not to let them in. When Italy went into lockdown in March there were at least 20 flights a day arriving from Italy into London, and disgorging passengers straight out of UK airports into the country at large with no health screening at all. Sheer madness

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

but what if it keeps mutating?

It will. Like flu. But now we know how to make, store and distribute a vaccine for it (or will do in a month or so), modifying the vaccine to accomodate a change in epitope each year will be facile. We have another 3 months of relatively high risk of death for the over 65s, then it will drop to 'normal' flu proportions.

The best solution would be to let all under 55s (5 years below the vulnerability take-off point, to be safe) and immunocompromised carry on, whil efully protecting and supportin the rest (stay at home, bills paid, priority provisions home delivery, etc - far far cheaper than national lockdown), but we are led by sheep and goons so this won't happen. We are not alone across the world, however. But our population does contain a disproportione contingent of thick gammon and 'characters' who 'know best' etc., who have disrupted the narrative with their selfish stupid bollocks; this includes Boris.

Given that, if people are still advocating 'back to normal' now, without any 'protect the old and vulnerable' they should be ashamed.

 

[Bozza]

Heard on the news that there are people still insisting that it’s a hoax.

I read two first-hand stories from NHS doctors on Thursday and they were horrific, both in terms of the load, physical and mental, being placed on health workers and also for many of those who are hospitalised with Covid, fighting for their lives. One of the stories brought me to tears, whilst the images both conjured up were still haunting me when I went to bed that night. I'm glad I read them though - it's important to understand just what is going on in hospitals right now.

But, yes, one of the doctors also mentioned coming out of his London hospital on NYE, after a long exhausting day, to find a large drunken mob, with no face coverings and no socially-distancing in place chanting "Covid is a hoax". Nearby, people were dying of that supposed hoax.

The likes of Toby Young, Julia Hartley-Brewer et al have a lot to answer for. They plant seeds in receptive minds that leads to this scepticism, that takes people down a path that has some of them videoing hospital corridors and sharing that footage on social media to try and create a story that there's not much going on in hospitals right now.

I despair, I really do.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

With the cases and deaths rising to record levels, is it time to go back to March restrictions regarding shutting everything apart from supermarkets and schools?

All tradespeople are still working in this lockdown whereas that didn’t happen in March.

This is where the vicious circle has started with regard to people still working > sending kids to school > not staying at home > infections rise (surprise!)


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This is all the product of hopeless leadership. A government led by classics graduates (which is OK, but...) who appoint scientific advisors whose advice they process, picking and chosing what fits their political agenda. Compromise can be good, but not in situations like these.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I totally agree there are some bell ends in supermarkets and people who think social distancing is for someone else!

Having said all that, you tried to get a delivery slot from any supermarket at the moment? Nothing from M&S, Waitrose, Sainsbury’s ( unless you have already had a delivery) Tesco’s. People did have to get in first time as they are not taking new instructions

Indeed. And that doesn't take account of the number of people using discount supermarkets due to losing their job, being furloughed or generally not wanting to pay the rip off prices at the main supermarkets. The discount supermarkets do not deliver. Blinkered view from someone that clearly has too much money.

 

[Bozza]

The best solution would be to let all under 55s (5 years below the vulnerability take-off point, to be safe) and immunocompromised carry on, whil efully protecting and supportin the rest (stay at home, bills paid, priority provisions home delivery, etc - far far cheaper than national lockdown), but we are led by sheep and goons so this won't happen. We are not alone across the world, however. But our population does contain a disproportione contingent of thick gammon and 'characters' who 'know best' etc., who have disrupted the narrative with their selfish stupid bollocks; this includes Boris.

It won't happen because it's completely impractical and unworkable - it's got nothing to do with "sheeps and goons". Many countries are not led by such types - are you able to give me a list of those that have followed this strategy?

From some quick calculations based on the vaccination groups, your "the rest who stay at home" numbers c20m people - around a third of the country. And, of course, many of those people will live with your low-risk under-55s. Do those co-habitees also stay at home, to help keep the vulberable safe?

Regardless of how you answer that question, I hope the number of 20m illustrates that your plan just can't work. If you take 20m people out of circulation, vast swathes of the economy can not function as the workforce is decimated.