[Politics] Corbynite councillor sends daughter to Roedean

[Not Andy Naylor]

Just like that. So simple.

Finland has a much smaller population and (generally) higher rates of taxation.

 

[Hastings gull]

Finland has a much smaller population and (generally) higher rates of taxation.

So, does that mean they have resolved it as you say? No one goes private there and everyone is delighted with their state education. That must be the situation given what you claim.

 

[Wardy's twin]

you know how to spell Know ? yes ? No ?

apparently i don't

 

[Lower West Stander]

Haven't read the whole story but he says one of his kids goes to an independent school.

Would be unusual to send one child and not the other(s), therefore perhaps there's a particular (or sensitive) reason why his daughter has gone there: perhaps something that he genuinely feels might not be addressed by her going to (or remaining at) a state school. Or maybe she's on a scholarship.

Absolutely.

I mean 40k is nothing is it?


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[BLOCK F]

Don’t apologise Block F
That’s incredibly sad. Do you feel you had a ‘better’ education from it?
Have you, in later years, told your parents exactly how it was?

Hi KNC; difficult to say, really.
As far as the academic side of education is concerned, the teaching was pretty good with one or two notable exceptions; but then again, it is unlikely that in any school all the teachers are good.
For those days, the general facilities and opportunity to play sport were abundant and specialist interest societies existed for those who wanted them.
I was good at sport, which was always helpful at a public school almost 60 years ago!
Pastoral care was virtually non existent.
No, I never told my parents exactly how it was, probably because the day I left school was the day I started living my own life and could start to forget about having to 'conform' and suppressing one's own character.It was up to then, the best day of my life! I was also a pretty resilient young fellow and slightly 'stiff upper lipped', having been at boarding school since 1956 at the age of eight.
It wasn't all bad, I made some good mates, gained self sufficiency and was determined to make the best of any talents I had, although with hindsight, I wish I had studied harder. We also joked that having survived our time at school, we were supremely equipped to deal with any incarceration we may have to endure at 'Her Majesty's Pleasure', should we find ourselves in that unfortunate position.
Anyway, I am a happy old git, married for 31 years, with three children and one lovely little grandson.
Finally, I do concede that some of my peers may have a far more favourable attitude to their school days than I do!

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

So, does that mean they have resolved it as you say? No one goes private there and everyone is delighted with their state education. That must be the situation given what you claim.

I didn't claim anything. I was just saying that it was easier for Finland to improve its state education because they can spend more per head on it, including on teachers' salaries. But it comes at or near the top of many education league tables.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...l-superior-us-helsinki-children-a8147426.html

 

[Nitram]

surely he doesn`t like the idea of private education but as things are he realises that the private sector does supply the best educational chance for his children. sensible surely !

I don`t like the idea of private health insurance believing the NHS brilliant but still have private health policy which I believe sensible !

you may consider it laughable ... I consider it sensible !

Laughable refers to the lefties tieing themselves up in knots on this hypocrisy. No problem with people who believe in private education just those who try to face both ways at the same time. As George Orwell said in Animal Farm on the collapse of idealism in the socialist cause all men are equal but some are more equal than others.

 

[Hiney]

Maybe the daughter is a massive Lezza who is really good at Lacrosse

Roedean would be perfect.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

I will not say anything more on this matter other than to say ...

 

[zefarelly]

I was referring to the left . Brand everything racist,fascist etc. To stifle debate. Personally I don't read the mail.

I wasn't looking to stifle debate, just merely stating fact. The British press, particularly the tabloids are mostly funded propaganda, sadly a significant proportion of the voting,population have been brainwashed by it.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I wasn't looking to stifle debate, just merely stating fact. The British press, particularly the tabloids are mostly funded propaganda, sadly a significant proportion of the voting,population have been brainwashed by it.

I don’t disagree. However it is not necessary to read the Mail (I do not) to take the view that it is hypocritical to be an elected representative of a political party that opposes elitism/privilege whilst simultaneously sending one’s own child to a public school.

 

[melias shoes]

I don’t disagree. However it is not necessary to read the Mail (I do not) to take the view that it is hypocritical to be an elected representative of a political party that opposes elitism/privilege whilst simultaneously sending one’s own child to a public school.

Exactly.

 

[Hampster Gull]

I don’t disagree. However it is not necessary to read the Mail (I do not) to take the view that it is hypocritical to be an elected representative of a political party that opposes elitism/privilege whilst simultaneously sending one’s own child to a public school.

Exactly, but it will be ever this with the Momentum types

 

[melias shoes]

Exactly, but it will be ever this with the Momentum types

Don't do as I do, do as I say?

 

[Hastings gull]

]I didn't claim anything.[/B] I was just saying that it was easier for Finland to improve its state education because they can spend more per head on it, including on teachers' salaries. But it comes at or near the top of many education league tables.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...l-superior-us-helsinki-children-a8147426.html

Read what you wrote again -you did claim that in Finland the situation was resolved! Yes, it may well come top, and yes they do tax people more in Scandanavia, but that on its own is not at all proof of anything being resolved as you put it. These league tables have been a feature for many years, but I am not sure how easy it is to accurately compare systems.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Don't do as I do, do as I say?

They can trick some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

They can trick some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time

No compromise with the electorate.

 

[BadFish]

It is tricky to comment on this situation without knowing all the facts. We don't know his reasons for sending one of his children to Roedean and without that rather vital information I am not sure how we can be so quick to condemn or defend said decision.

It is entirely possible to disagree with the privatisation of state schools and see worth in the private system. Opinions on education are not as black and white as some would like to make out. The same can be said for politics.

Having said that, the sad truth of the matter is that as a member of the Labour Party (on the left too?) he should expect some criticism for using a private system that they are traditionally critical of.

I suspect that this was all taken into account when he and his family made the decision for what ever reason(s) they made it for.

Seems like their are a lot of people on this thread barracking hard for their team. Any excuse to put the boot in.

What it comes down to is: If it really bothers you then don't vote for him or his party. If you can find a politician to vote for with stronger principles/morals then very good luck to you.

My personal opinion is that it really isn't enough of an issue to make we change my vote either way (I suspect that this is similar for most of us).

 

[pastafarian]

My personal opinion is that it really isn't enough of an issue to make we change my vote either way (I suspect that this is similar for most of us).

This is probably the case for many voters....probably not high on their agenda.....however
Should a political party and its officials continue to object to private education as a policy for the general public whilst enjoying the system they object to for their own children?
Seems a fair question to ask.

 

[zefarelly]

I don’t disagree. However it is not necessary to read the Mail (I do not) to take the view that it is hypocritical to be an elected representative of a political party that opposes elitism/privilege whilst simultaneously sending one’s own child to a public school.

Agreed it is somewhat hypocritical, and sadly far more prevalent than just this one individual. Thing is, do we know any facts behind it? maybe his daughter got a scholarship? or grandparents are paying . . . there are as many different types of 'public' school as there are state schools. At the end of the day it's hardly a crime.