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Conservatives to push forward on manifesto and scrap Human Rights Act







Spicy

We're going up.
Dec 18, 2003
6,038
London
So how exactly has the HRA been used against you?

Not against me but against the UK - you only have to look at the high profile immigration cases as an example of the way it has stopped us ridding ourselves of scum. Have you missed those?
 


Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,324
But when we vote to withdraw from the EU...

We would still be a signatory to the Convention. The European Union is a completely different matter and has no relation to the Convention or European Court of Human Rights
 




sahel

Active member
Jan 24, 2014
225
Not against me but against the UK - you only have to look at the high profile immigration cases as an example of the way it has stopped us ridding ourselves of scum. Have you missed those?

So you must think we should "unsign" the European Convention On Human Rights which was designed after WW2 and which covers some 47 european countries all agreeing to abide by basic human rights and accepting that the actions of their governments should be subject to an independent european court.

What an example to set everyone?
 




sahel

Active member
Jan 24, 2014
225
Good riddance, we managed fine before this farce was imposed on us by the Germans who themselves have a wonderful record on human rights.

What are you talking about! The Convention on Human Rights was drafted because of what the Germans did in WW2!
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
What are you talking about! The Convention on Human Rights was drafted because of what the Germans did in WW2!
Yes, but NSC law is that everything about Europe is about evil immigration and nothing else. Farage's work is done on this forum.
 


GreersElbow

New member
Jan 5, 2012
4,870
A Northern Outpost
I don't understand the point you are making. The HRA does not allow the government do these things. It gives people recourse to the law to stop them. And by signing the European Convention we give a European court the right to protect us as well. So how can we better off without it?

:ffsparr: I have no idea where you're getting this argument from, I'm stating that the government introduced the HRA contradicted it with policy and other decisions as emphasised by putting the right in bold and example after. It really is a case of 2+2 =.....
 






Spicy

We're going up.
Dec 18, 2003
6,038
London
So you must think we should "unsign" the European Convention On Human Rights which was designed after WW2 and which covers some 47 european countries all agreeing to abide by basic human rights and accepting that the actions of their governments should be subject to an independent european court.

What an example to set everyone?

I am entitled to an opinion.
 






seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,944
Crap Town
Boundary changes? all Hail prime minister BoJo in 5 years time.:clap:

Reducing the number of seats from 650 to 600 means Labour would lose out big time with every constituency made up of an equal number of voters. Labour would start off each general election with a 20 seat handicap because many of the marginals will simply disappear. Bozza Johnson could be our PM until 2055.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 15, 2004
19,597
Hurst Green
Reducing the number of seats from 650 to 600 means Labour would lose out big time with every constituency made up of an equal number of voters. Labour would start off each general election with a 20 seat handicap because many of the marginals will simply disappear. Bozza Johnson could be our PM until 2055.
How dare they make all votes equal.
 


Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
25,922
I'm a bit concerned about how this works, and just who is drafting it. The current Act has its flaws, but would the new Act be less rather than more ?

My biggest concern is the erosion of employment rights. The Tories are the servants of big business, so might we be. I fear a clear distinction will be made as to who the overlords are, and how we are indeed servants.
 






Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,865
What would happen if the Act was scrapped then? :shrug:

Are you really telling me that all those rights you listed would disappear if the Human Rights Act was scrapped? And the HRA as it stands doesn't even cover the greatest Human Right of all: the Right to choose the time of your own death.
 


Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,865
Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you people? Did she die in vain?
 


TomandJerry

Well-known member
Oct 1, 2013
12,323
Are you really telling me that all those rights you listed would disappear if the Human Rights Act was scrapped? And the HRA as it stands doesn't even cover the greatest Human Right of all: the Right to choose the time of your own death.

In all honesty I have no idea, but I can only assume if the Act was scrapped then the rights would disappear? On the other hand the European rights would still be there. And well we don't have that specific right to choose the time of our own death otherwise assisted suicide wouldn't be illegal?
 




Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,748
LOONEY BIN
I'm a bit concerned about how this works, and just who is drafting it. The current Act has its flaws, but would the new Act be less rather than more ?

My biggest concern is the erosion of employment rights. The Tories are the servants of big business, so might we be. I fear a clear distinction will be made as to who the overlords are, and how we are indeed servants.

You can guarantee that they will try and just about outlaw strikes
 


Big G

New member
Dec 14, 2005
1,086
Brighton
Will be best thing to happen to this country the day we rid ourselves of the Human Rights Act. Implemented by Blair and remarkably lined his pockets through his 'Human Rights Lawyer' wife cashing in on protecting terrorists and criminals! The sooner its scrapped the better!!
 


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