[Politics] Conservative Party Conference

[JC Footy Genius]

I think the term is "barnstorming' , you can see how he connects with people outside political tribes. Good performer but the real test will be delivering on the rhetoric.

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[ManOfSussex]

Has he mentioned misogyny against men yet like Dominic Raab did earlier?

 

[JBizzle]

I think the term is "barnstorming' , you can see how he connects with people outside political tribes. Good performer but the real test will be delivering on the rhetoric.

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This is one of my problems with politics: It's all about performance. He will 100% give a better sales pitch to the Tories that Starmer does for two reasons.

1) He can say what he likes because it's who he is: All mouth and no trousers. A man that says everything and delivers nothing and constantly gets away with it because
2) He systematically rooted out any dissenters in the Tory party so every MP in that room is pro Boris (for now). The party is now build in his image. That room is his people. Starmer is too busy trying to see where the next knife is coming from from within the Labour Party to focus on sharpening his own knives for the Tories (metaphorically, of course).

I'll probably read the highlights somewhere because I'm now as a point where I actually cannot stomach listening to his populist balderdash waffle any more.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

A rabble rousing speech aimed at the nodding dog MP's and all the mugs watching on the TV who will believe anything that they are told, even with Johnsons history of lying and bluster.
The uncontrolled immigration bit would have gone down particularly well because thousands were flooding into this country with no work and just claiming benefits, weren't they.
Unfortunately he got it bang on because there are so many ignorant people around today.
Expect nothing that he said to actually happen.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

This is one of my problems with politics: It's all about performance. He will 100% give a better sales pitch to the Tories that Starmer does for two reasons.

1) He can say what he likes because it's who he is: All mouth and no trousers. A man that says everything and delivers nothing and constantly gets away with it because
2) He systematically rooted out any dissenters in the Tory party so every MP in that room is pro Boris (for now). The party is now build in his image. That room is his people. Starmer is too busy trying to see where the next knife is coming from from within the Labour Party to focus on sharpening his own knives for the Tories (metaphorically, of course).

I'll probably read the highlights somewhere because I'm now as a point where I actually cannot stomach listening to his populist balderdash waffle any more.

A succesful political leader needs to connect with the public reaching as broader base as possible. He undoubtedly has many flaws but on this particular metric he is very good. Starmer, not so much, although as you point out, it doesn't help when your own side are heckling you at a time when you are supposed to be showing you are a united, competent, government in waiting.



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[Berty23]

We should all be thankful to Boris because he listed as many brexit benefits as he could. One of these was getting the european super league cancelled. Yes folks. Our prime minister has claimed he was able to stop it because of brexit.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Boris on fire this morning and firing from the hip , what a inspirational man and made Starmer look like a wet lettuce.
No wonder he commands a eighty seat majority and long may it continue

Regards
DF

 

[spoonie]

We should all be thankful to Boris because he listed as many brexit benefits as he could. One of these was getting the european super league cancelled. Yes folks. Our prime minister has claimed he was able to stop it because of brexit.

when he was actually all for it

 

[Pavilionaire]

Boris is the first Tory leader since Thatcher to have enough about him to actually have the balls to make changes that affect peoples lives.

This week he has talked about "drift and dither" and it is true that his predecessors Cameron and May had no vision whatsoever, no cojones to tackle big issues like social care, environment, immigration, policing.

You are better off ignoring his words and look at his decisions to see where he is taking the country. A Hard Brexit, withdrawal of SEISS grant / furlough / £20 a week Universal Credit and no emergency visas other than those just to put a turkey on the table and Xmas presents under the tree says "Britain - get back to work." He is also putting pressure on employers to raise wages and has chastised them for relying on cheap Eastern European labour.

This is a risky strategy. What if British workers aren't prepared to fill the hospitality / care work / fruit and veg picker / HGV driver vacancies left behind by departing EU citizens?

 

[Berty23]

It seems a bizarre contradiction to say “get back to the office” but then to shout about it being unfair to places like Doncaster and Blackpool that people have to move to get better jobs. Wouldn’t it be more sensible to embrace hybrid working as this would mean people wouldn’t need to move house, they could stay where they are and have a slightly longer commute once or twice a week. This feels like the easiest way possible to “level up” if you ask me.

If people need to get back to the office then doesn’t this mean people will move to areas where it is easier to commute to the office? If people can work anywhere then they will have more leisure time in their local area. So people in Blackpool can spend money in the town rather than spend it travelling to Manchester or liverpool for work. This can help communities grow.

Am I missing something obvious?

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

It seems a bizarre contradiction to say “get back to the office” but then to shout about it being unfair to places like Doncaster and Blackpool that people have to move to get better jobs. Wouldn’t it be more sensible to embrace hybrid working as this would mean people wouldn’t need to move house, they could stay where they are and have a slightly longer commute once or twice a week. This feels like the easiest way possible to “level up” if you ask me.

If people need to get back to the office then doesn’t this mean people will move to areas where it is easier to commute to the office? If people can work anywhere then they will have more leisure time in their local area. So people in Blackpool can spend money in the town rather than spend it travelling to Manchester or liverpool for work. This can help communities grow.

Am I missing something obvious?

Costa Coffee and Pret bunging the tory party?

 

[Simster]

I think the term is "barnstorming' , you can see how he connects with people outside political tribes. Good performer but the real test will be delivering on the rhetoric.

Sorry, not having that. I'd have thought literally anyone with no scruples or shame whatsoever and an audience exclusively made up of nodding dogs (because the opposition has been completely purged) could rock up and deliver a scruffy, contemptuous, policy-free speech full of lies and bullshit.

Seriously, what's so clever about delivering a speech that outlined absolutely no policies and lied blatantly on a few occasions? But, em ok, Starmer and that etc. Yawn.

 

[nicko31]

Policy light again, very little of anything new.

 

[BBassic]

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Sorry, not having that. I'd have thought literally anyone with no scruples or shame whatsoever and an audience exclusively made up of nodding dogs (because the opposition has been completely purged) could rock up and deliver a scruffy, contemptuous, policy-free speech full of lies and bullshit.

Seriously, what's so clever about delivering a speech that outlined absolutely no policies and lied blatantly on a few occasions? But, em ok, Starmer and that etc. Yawn.

As I said, he connects with people outside political tribes. Two wins as Mayor in London and securing a big majority, partly made up of previously unwinnable seats testify to his reach. I find most people aren't political obsessives who loathe the blue or red team they just pick up occasional news items and like a bit of charisma and positivity from a leader. You may not like it but he undoubtecly has that x factor, ultimately he will be judged on delivery though.





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[Simster]

As I said, he connects with people outside political tribes.

He does, but that is because the majority of people are not engaged in politics. He delivers very little except division, and depressingly most people don't seem to care.

I find most people aren't political obsessives who loathe the blue or red team they just pick up occasional news items and like a bit of charisma and positivity from a leader. You may not like it but he undoubtecly has that x factor, ultimately he will be judged on delivery though.

I don't like it, because he has sacrificed political integrity for blatant populism. He is not like Thatcher, who was controversial but made clear what her policies were and was judged on their success. This bloke just pumps out utter flannel and because people are depressingly disengaged, they believe what they see (thanks in large part to the media backing him) and keep voting for him.

That is why those who don't like him actively hate him and consider him the worst PM we've ever had.

 

[HH Brighton]

As I said, he connects with people outside political tribes. Two wins as Mayor in London and securing a big majority, partly made up of previously unwinnable seats testify to his reach. I find most people aren't political obsessives who loathe the blue or red team they just pick up occasional news items and like a bit of charisma and positivity from a leader. You may not like it but he undoubtecly has that x factor, ultimately he will be judged on delivery though.





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Depressingly enough people don't seem to care about anything substantial anymore. A few sound bites and slogans about getting things seems to be enough to convince 1 in 4 people to vote for them. The press in this country have succeeded in dumbing down the public. The biggest trick is that the Tories have convinced the people that earn £25 an hour that its the people that earn £8.90 an hours fault.

 

[ManOfSussex]

He does, but that is because the majority of people are not engaged in politics. He delivers very little except division, and depressingly most people don't seem to care.

I don't like it, because he has sacrificed political integrity for blatant populism. He is not like Thatcher, who was controversial but made clear what her policies were and was judged on their success. This bloke just pumps out utter flannel and because people are depressingly disengaged, they believe what they see (thanks in large part to the media backing him) and keep voting for him.

That is why those who don't like him actively hate him and consider him the worst PM we've ever had.

It's actually almost reminiscent of Peter Cook as PM in 'Whoops Apocalypse'

 

[zefarelly]

It's actually almost reminiscent of Peter Cook as PM in 'Whoops Apocalypse'

And a squadron of Alan B'stards in the wings.

 

[studio150]

Policy light again, very little of anything new.

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