- Oct 17, 2008
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Mind the pedestrian, Richard!That was crap to start with.
Mind the pedestrian, Richard!That was crap to start with.
I think nostalgia can cover a multitude of shortcomings, though.Fawlty Towers is the best sitcom of all time. It has aged absolutely fine, so well in fact it’s just extended in the West End before it goes on what will be a sell-out tour. Same as Only Fools and Horses.
There is a lot of people wanting comfort and nostalgia and couldn’t give two shits if social norms mean you’re not allowed to laugh at things that upset some people nowadays.
There’s a reason why Dad’s Army, Only Fools, Fawlty Towers et al are still loved today, and trash like Up The Elephant isn’t.
That’s because Up the Elephant was racist garbage then, and is racist garbage now. Not a case of aging badly, but audiences hopefully growing out of it. The fault of the audience not the material.
I was about to write that I don't remember anything ever actually happening in Butterflies, but then I realised that as I was about 6 when I last saw any of it I probably wasn't best placed to judge.I loved Butterflies. More than a comedy, a take on life, teenage sons, suburbia.
That was crap to start with.
Richard Briers and Paul Eddington are dead.How hasn't the Good Life aged well?
I’m not put off by such things, such as the example you’ve given there. That’s the character, in the setting, in the period. Morse is meant to be a grumpy bastard, he’s the same in the books.I think nostalgia can cover a multitude of shortcomings, though.
Different genre, I love Inspector Morse because it was on when I was visiting Oxford for work, and I love a crime thrilla, and the characters are great, and it takes me back to an exciting time in my life..... but...
Morse's chauvenism did grate when I watched the series all the way through again, the last time (my dear). Perhaps I'll never bother with it again. Sad, but so it goes.
I think nostalgia can cover a multitude of shortcomings, though.
Different genre, I love Inspector Morse because it was on when I was visiting Oxford for work, and I love a crime thrilla, and the characters are great, and it takes me back to an exciting time in my life..... but...
Morse's chauvenism did grate when I watched the series all the way through again, the last time (my dear). Perhaps I'll never bother with it again. Sad, but so it goes.
Agree!Fawlty Towers is the best sitcom of all time. It has aged absolutely fine, so well in fact it’s just extended in the West End before it goes on what will be a sell-out tour. Same as Only Fools and Horses.
There is a lot of people wanting comfort and nostalgia and couldn’t give two shits if social norms mean you’re not allowed to laugh at things that upset some people nowadays.
There’s a reason why Dad’s Army, Only Fools, Fawlty Towers et al are still loved today, and trash like Up The Elephant isn’t.
That’s because Up the Elephant was racist garbage then, and is racist garbage now. Not a case of aging badly, but audiences hopefully growing out of it. The fault of the audience not the material.
The only one I ever watch - Brett was THE Sherlock Holmes for me!Have you ever watched the Jeremy Brett Sherlock’s again?
Zef jr loved it when he was younger ( still does I think) he was born nearly 30 years after it was first sired . . . If you have a brain and vague knowledge of modern history, say, at a level your dog would understand, you would get the generational difference. And should find it amusing. most of the funniest bits are timeless. ITV is there for a reason I guess.The Good Life is brilliant and anybody ("down with the kids" or otherwise) who thinks otherwise can f*** right off.
You don't mean there are other Sherlock Holmes do you?Have you ever watched the Jeremy Brett Sherlock’s again?
Father Ted yesI still watch and enjoy: Only Fools, Fawlty Towers, Porridge, Father Ted and Gavin And Stacey.
I used to but don’t now watch: The Young Ones, Two Pints, The Office or Brush Strokes (although I do still listen to Dexy’s Midnight Runners)
I've watched that relatively recently (for the first time in my case). It's probably fair to say that there aren't too many time-specific contemporary references in it.Literally just been rewatching Vic Reeves Big Night Out. Seems to have aged OK. I still LOLd at Milli Vanilla trying to create negative gravity in their tights but then perhaps that's just me.
All I said was Morse's chauvinism grates (my dear). Grumpy, I embrace.I’m not put off by such things, such as the example you’ve given there. That’s the character, in the setting, in the period. Morse is meant to be a grumpy bastard, he’s the same in the books.
It seems pretty arbitrary what people are deciding has/hasn’t aged well, and perhaps it’s them and their worldview which has changed rather than the programme.
I never could stand Little Britain, which I found malicious and offensive at the time. Yet people are now deciding it “hasn’t aged well”.
All the examples I’ve given of oldies, and I’ll added Reginald Perrin and Yes, Minister to those, are shows which document the time without going out of their way to be offensive and spiteful like, say, Curry and Chips.
Open all hours was old when it was first aired . . . . How can have possibly aged either way? Ronnie Barker was a timeless comedy genius.Aged Well Fawlty Towers
Badly-Open All Hours
You don't mean there are other Sherlock Holmes do you?
I'm not having that.