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[Football] Christian Eriksen













Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003
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Great to see such an effective medical response with a good outcome so far. It shows how having the right equipment and trained people nearby can save lives - hopefully it will encourage people to get training themselves where appropriate as normally there aren't so many professionals standing by to help.
 




Leekbrookgull

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Jul 14, 2005
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Leek
You're absolutely correct. Or indeed torsades de pointes (which is a form of VT as I suspect you already know). I've been doing research on this (primarily ischaemia-induced VF) for 35 years.

Apparently they are planning to carry on the game tonight. If CE gives his blessing, fair enough.

As an aside, I am trying to get published the culmination of a lifetime's research - an new drug for ischaemia-induced VF. Nothing to do with the current case and its pathology which is far more rare an event. Ischaemia-induced VF is currently the single most common cause of death in the UK. Not a lot of people seem to know that, which always baffles me...

All the best :thumbsup:

Is this something the C/E could have felt coming on before it actually happening or is this a total out of the blue situation ?
 


Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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Great to see such an effective medical response with a good outcome so far. It shows how having the right equipment and trained people nearby can save lives - hopefully it will encourage people to get training themselves where appropriate as normally there aren't so many professionals standing by to help.

Yup. Pretty new phenomenon as well. I think the FIFA requirement that every professional team must have a defibrilator available came in 2003 (Marc Vivien Foe) or 2004 (Miklos Feher). Before that, tonights outcome could have been a lot different (though I believe he would probably have been rushed quicker to Rigshospitalet only 500 meters away).
 


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
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Vilamoura, Portugal
Well done to the medics who saved a young life :bowdown:

There was a lot of amazing work, starting with the Danish captain who immediately cleared his airway by getting his tongue out of the way, the medics who realised within seconds that his heart had stopped and performed CPR whilst awaiting the defibrillator, and his teammates who formed a cordon to give him privacy from the crowd and the cameras as they fought to save him.
 




Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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Sweden
There was a lot of amazing work, starting with the Danish captain who immediately cleared his airway by getting his tongue out of the way, the medics who realised within seconds that his heart had stopped and performed CPR whilst awaiting the defibrillator, and his teammates who formed a cordon to give him privacy from the crowd and the cameras as they fought to save him.

Yup. Brave heroes all of the Danes. Hope they make it out of the group in the end despite the result.

Well done by Anthony Taylor to react pretty immediatly as well. Could perhaps be taken for granted as Eriksen laid there passed out with his eyes open, but I've seen refs hesitate 20-30 seconds to wave for medics in situations like that.
 


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
8,469
Vilamoura, Portugal
Yup. Brave heroes all of the Danes. Hope they make it out of the group in the end despite the result.

Well done by Anthony Taylor to react pretty immediatly as well. Could perhaps be taken for granted as Eriksen laid there passed out with his eyes open, but I've seen refs hesitate 20-30 seconds to wave for medics in situations like that.

Yes, indeed. It took him only5 seconds to stop the game and wave on the medical crew. I was fearing a VAR review, a yellow card and a freekick to Finland for simulation. "I never touched him, ref".
 


zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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Sussex, by the sea
Yes, indeed. It took him only5 seconds to stop the game and wave on the medical crew. I was fearing a VAR review, a yellow card and a freekick to Finland for simulation. "I never touched him, ref".

As much as I'd like to see VAR **** off and die, I do not want to see players do it.
 




jonnyrovers

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Aug 13, 2013
1,181
Shoreham-by-Sea
You're absolutely correct. Or indeed torsades de pointes (which is a form of VT as I suspect you already know). I've been doing research on this (primarily ischaemia-induced VF) for 35 years.

Apparently they are planning to carry on the game tonight. If CE gives his blessing, fair enough.

As an aside, I am trying to get published the culmination of a lifetime's research - an new drug for ischaemia-induced VF. Nothing to do with the current case and its pathology which is far more rare an event. Ischaemia-induced VF is currently the single most common cause of death in the UK. Not a lot of people seem to know that, which always baffles me...

All the best :thumbsup:

That's very interesting and without doubt a noble and selfless life's pursuit.

Is this a first line emergency drug for use where VF is evident, or regularly taken medication to reduce occurrence in a risk group? Either way if approved it will be lifesaving for some I'm sure.

For my own understanding, are you saying there is a sub type of VF caused specifically by the cardiac irritability secondary to ischaemia? Is this the irreversible post infarct type of myocardial ischaemia or the transient ischaemia secondary to acute coronary syndrome? In my naivety I'm assuming ACS as this leads to the more labile arrhythmias??

Is there big pharma sponsorship for your R&D?
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
There was a lot of amazing work, starting with the Danish captain who immediately cleared his airway by getting his tongue out of the way, the medics who realised within seconds that his heart had stopped and performed CPR whilst awaiting the defibrillator, and his teammates who formed a cordon to give him privacy from the crowd and the cameras as they fought to save him.

They made every second count.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Obviously, I'm hoping Erikson makes a full and complete recovery.

However, when my time comes to leave this earth, what a way to go go, just jogging around and the lights go out. I would rather that than a 6 month terminal cancer sentence where only pain an anxiety awaits.
If I could be guaranteed the 6 months - and with no hope of any more - I would go back to smoking quicker than Lewis Hamilton on a final qualifying lap!

Plus - al the best to Eriksen. Probably no more pro football, but should have enough stashed away to fund a happy enough life going forward - so hope he does get to enjoy it.
 




zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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Sussex, by the sea
Medics and health workers/carers save lives. Society REALLY needs to reorder its value system.

I think you'll find Scandinavian countries are sharing caring and civilised. Thank **** the game wasn't at the Riverside. He'd be cold n stiff in the back of a Bedford CF van before it started up, let alone got anywhere near people capable of calling 999!

Yes, British SOciety does need reordering. A total flip would be a good start
 


timbha

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Jul 5, 2003
10,496
Sussex
Obviously, I'm hoping Erikson makes a full and complete recovery.

However, when my time comes to leave this earth, what a way to go go, just jogging around and the lights go out. I would rather that than a 6 month terminal cancer sentence where only pain an anxiety awaits.

I think I know what you mean but I don’t think your wife * and kids * would be so joyous (* if applicable)
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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I think I know what you mean but I don’t think your wife * and kids * would be so joyous (* if applicable)

Disagree....having had to watch my (42 yo) sister literally waste away for something like 3 months with terminal cancer, a swift exit (ideally dong something you enjoy) is infinitely preferable IMO.

Lightning hitting my fishing rod would be my preference
 


GT49er

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I think you'll find Scandinavian countries are sharing caring and civilised. Thank **** the game wasn't at the Riverside. He'd be cold n stiff in the back of a Bedford CF van before it started up, let alone got anywhere near people capable of calling 999!

No, he probably wouldn't be 'cold and stiff' - I'm sure the Middlesbrough paramedics are as well trained and dedicated as wonderful paramedics are everywhere else. Unnecessary bit of anti-northern prejudice. The fans may - or may not - be racist; but the paramedics? Call them out as racist or incompetent and proclaim to the world your own prejudice.

I expect you just didn't express yourself the way you meant, eh?
 




Sarisbury Seagull

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Tough day. Hope so much he’s ok and can play again as unlikely as that looks right now. I always struggle when that sort of thing happens to footballers, massive credit to the medics.

That Russia Belgium game was quite a hollow watch.
 




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