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Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
" It is accomplished ".

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Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
43,098
Lancing
Its not over yet, not by a long way.
 




skipper734

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Aug 9, 2008
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Curdridge
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The Sock of Poskett

The best is yet to come (spoiler alert)
Jun 12, 2009
2,836
It's Friday ... but Sunday's coming
 


brunswick

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Aug 13, 2004
2,920
easter is a pagan festival based on the equinox.

the resurection of a sun god has been done many time (horus, dionysis, mithra) and has been copied and used by the catholics.

the resurrection story goes back to Osiris and the resurrection of the soul.

the 3 days is to do with the sun (sun god) at xmas where the sun dies for 3 days and then is reborn on the 25th december.

research astrotheology.

christianity is a joke and keeps people in fear and guilt, and keeps self power quashed.

rant over.
 










Hungry Joe

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Oct 22, 2004
7,636
Heading for shore
How can a non-existant invention of the human mind have died. As well say biggles is dead.

The historical humanitarian revolutionary that was Jesus of Nazareth was very real and was executed by the Roman State in colaboration with the Jewish church of the time. The bible stories were made up and the festivals borrowed. There is merit in some of the stories and I don't deny anyone wanting something to celebrate or feel a belonging to. It's the abuse of that devotion by dodgy religious institutions and fanatics that is the real evil.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
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he died, so we go and celebrate with a chocolate egg, obviously

NOT until Sunday Brett you PHILISTINE. today you must watch The Passion of the Christ on a loop for 12 hours and then go to bed and suffer for your sins.
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
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The historical humanitarian revolutionary that was Jesus of Nazareth was very real and was executed by the Roman State in colaboration with the Jewish church of the time. The bible stories were made up and the festivals borrowed. There is merit in some of the stories and I don't deny anyone wanting something to celebrate or feel a belonging to. It's the abuse of that devotion by dodgy religious institutions and fanatics that is the real evil.

Care to provide any contemporaenous sources for his existance please? I know of tacitus writing of 'those they call the christians' and he also mentions for the first time in non-religious tracts christus but that was written in the early second century, some 70 years after the supposed death of this suposed person. I have never heard of any firm documentary evidence at all for this persons actual factual existance.
 


Stumpy Tim

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He’s referred to in pagan, Jewish, and Christian writings outside the New Testament. The Jewish historian Josephus writes about New Testament people like the high priests Annas and Caiaphas, Pontius Pilate, King Herod, John the Baptist, even Jesus himself and his brother James. There have also been archaeological discoveries as well bearing on the gospels. For example, in 1961 the first archaeological evidence concerning Pilate was unearthed in the town of Caesarea; it was an inscription of a dedication bearing Pilate’s name and title. Even more recently, in 1990 the actual tomb of Caiaphas, the high priest who presided over Jesus’s trial, was discovered south of Jerusalem. Indeed, the tomb beneath the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem is in all probability the tomb in which Jesus himself was laid by Joseph of Arimathea following the crucifixion. According to Luke Johnson, a New Testament scholar at Emory University, "Even the most critical historian can confidently assert that a Jew named Jesus worked as a teacher and wonder-worker in Palestine during the reign of Tiberius, was executed by crucifixion under the prefect Pontius Pilate and continued to have followers after his death."

Shamelessly Googled that.

I'm not anti or pro religion really, but I'm pretty certain Jesus did exist... I would suggest the Muslims are probably correct in saying he was a prophet rather than the son of God
 


Hungry Joe

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Oct 22, 2004
7,636
Heading for shore
Care to provide any contemporaenous sources for his existance please? I know of tacitus writing of 'those they call the christians' and he also mentions for the first time in non-religious tracts christus but that was written in the early second century, some 70 years after the supposed death of this suposed person. I have never heard of any firm documentary evidence at all for this persons actual factual existance.

You can get as intelectual as you like mate but it's stretching a point to say that because you've never seen any 'firm documentary evidence' for someone who lived 2000 years ago but who's existence is recognised by the vast majority of historians that they never existed.
 
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Trufflehound

Re-enfranchised
Aug 5, 2003
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The democratic and free EU
I'm not anti or pro religion really, but I'm pretty certain Jesus did exist... I would suggest the Muslims are probably correct in saying he was a prophet rather than the son of God

Jesus certainly existed. It's God that didn't...
 


You can get as intelectual as you like mate but it's stretching a point to say that because you've never seen any 'firm documentary evidence' for someone who lived 2000 years ago but who's existence is recognised by the vast majority of historians that they never existed.

Absolute rubbish. The vast majority of historians? Twaddle.

Attila the hun has firm documentary evidence. Alexander the great has firm documentary evidence. Socrates has firm documentary evidence. Pythagoras has firm documnetary evidence. There is more historical evidence for the existance of Helen of Troy than there is for the existance of the nazarene.

This is a man who supposedly so upset the Roman empire they specifically arranged to have him executed on trumped charges and not one piece of evidence from that time exists that references him. The earliest known writing from non-religious sources that refers to him is at least 70 years after he was supposed to have died.

Find me a reputable historian who is willing to categorically state that the man existed. Not one that says he may have existed, not one that says I believe he existed. One that says categorically that historical evidence shows he existed.
 


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