Possably I guess. But as far as I know this isn't a get two jabs and your done for the rest of your life situation it is to try and drop the spread and inpact at the moment, so will probably need a booster like the flu jab. I don't know if this will be given to everyone or only the vulnerable. There must be people who genuinly can't have the vacinne, so there must be a way that people who don't have it to be not excluded, if that is to show a negative test result for the antivax lot that is their choice. I have had the jab, but I also would defend the right of people to choose not to have it and they have, so I still don't get the logic behind it.
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Possably I guess. But as far as I know this isn't a get two jabs and your done for the rest of your life situation it is to try and drop the spread and inpact at the moment, so will probably need a booster like the flu jab. I don't know if this will be given to everyone or only the vulnerable. There must be people who genuinly can't have the vacinne, so there must be a way that people who don't have it to be not excluded, if that is to show a negative test result for the antivax lot that is their choice. I have had the jab, but I also would defend the right of people to choose not to have it and they have, so I still don't get the logic behind it.
clapham_gull
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If it's any consolation for the one losing his job, he has finally got his name in "Estate Agent Today". As as anyone is Estate Agent circles knows that's just one step down from making the regional semi-finals of Estate Agent of The Month, so his career is clearly on the up.
https://www.estateagenttoday.co.uk/...king-professor-chris-whitby?source=newsticker
https://www.estateagenttoday.co.uk/...king-professor-chris-whitby?source=newsticker
vegster
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- May 5, 2008
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So what about life expectancy dropping for children being born now and the explosion of obesity and subsequent type 2 Diabetes ? The fact that current life expectancy for people in " impoverished " areas is dropping and their likelihood of suffering worse outcomes from Covid-19 is higher than more affluent areas of the UK ?
I never knew this until a few days ago that there are more Food Banks in the UK than branches of McDonalds, I really don't recall a need for Food Banks as a kid, do you ? Lots of mixed messages there and its probably impossible to come up with a General Theory to cover it but, it seems ,we have more people in poverty who are now eating crap food and slowly killing themselves and their progeny. Oh, and while Education, Social Services and the NHS has had their budgets effectively cut or frozen.
SeagullinExile
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Not advisable. That would be ABH. Now that can carry a custodial!
These things you invoke are startling and disturbing, but they are part of the downward blips in the overall upward trajectory.
The type 2 diabetes to which you allude is caused by poor working class people suddenly finding themselves with money to spend, and through ignorance or relief or whatever, spending it on comfort food and drink, and telly. It's a blip. A gnerational phenomenn that has become a cultural phenomenon to an extent, but a temporary one I suspect (Darwin's law will deal with the stragglers). The quick fix (if you want one) is to make the working class poorer, but this will only increase mortality and morbidity from other causes. Like the malnutrition, infections and general neglect we used to have back in the good old days. Know your place, and all that. No, ta.
Food banks were needed when we were kids but the idea of them was anathema. I studied povery a bit when I did a sociology course at uni in the mid 70s. **** me. The deprivation in parts of white working class Britain were an eye opener. And that's just the headline stuff (ability to eat well and keep warm). The deprivation of the warmth of human interaction wasn't even something worth measuring, when families were literally rationing dry bread. Us soft southern poofs may have side stepped most of this, but elsewhere in the UK....
Education is much better now. OK, the opportunity to study Greek and Latin has diminished but I'm a grammar school boy (part of a small elite) and am not about to bemoan the removal of my privilages from a wider population that never ever had them. The secondary moderns are almost gone and even in Faversham where we still have the Kent Test (11 plus) the comps are excellent. Plus the chance of getting caned (or buggered) by a teacher is much lower these days, I gather.
But....it is part of our genetic programming to be excessively sensitized to shitness, and the gene really switches on as we get older. Hence grumpy old man syndrome. I assure you it is an illusion, one that helps us old men be more cautious and careful, and not break our silly old bones quite so easily. Every day in every way life seems shitter. But it really isn't.
Hampster Gull
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These things you invoke are startling and disturbing, but they are part of the downward blips in the overall upward trajectory.
The type 2 diabetes to which you allude is caused by poor working class people suddenly finding themselves with money to spend, and through ignorance or relief or whatever, spending it on comfort food and drink, and telly. It's a blip. A gnerational phenomenn that has become a cultural phenomenon to an extent, but a temporary one I suspect (Darwin's law will deal with the stragglers). The quick fix (if you want one) is to make the working class poorer, but this will only increase mortality and morbidity from other causes. Like the malnutrition, infections and general neglect we used to have back in the good old days. Know your place, and all that. No, ta.
Food banks were needed when we were kids but the idea of them was anathema. I studied povery a bit when I did a sociology course at uni in the mid 70s. **** me. The deprivation in parts of white working class Britain were an eye opener. And that's just the headline stuff (ability to eat well and keep warm). The deprivation of the warmth of human interaction wasn't even something worth measuring, when families were literally rationing dry bread. Us soft southern poofs may have side stepped most of this, but elsewhere in the UK....
Education is much better now. OK, the opportunity to study Greek and Latin has diminished but I'm a grammar school boy (part of a small elite) and am not about to bemoan the removal of my privilages from a wider population that never ever had them. The secondary moderns are almost gone and even in Faversham where we still have the Kent Test (11 plus) the comps are excellent. Plus the chance of getting caned (or buggered) by a teacher is much lower these days, I gather.
But....it is part of our genetic programming to be excessively sensitized to shitness, and the gene really switches on as we get older. Hence grumpy old man syndrome. I assure you it is an illusion, one that helps us old men be more cautious and careful, and not break our silly old bones quite so easily. Every day in every way life seems shitter. But it really isn't.
Superb post.
I was simply going to say life is much better now and that if the others cant recall the need for food banks (or equivalent) a few decades ago they were living a middle class bubble
vegster
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We used to dream of being " Middle Class "....
Robinjakarta
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Billy the Fish
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The correct decision. There needs to be a deterrent against dickheads harassing people with their phones.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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This. Nice to see Clevor Trever's life take another turn for the worse
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It seems like he took Hunter S. Thompson's advice. He bought the ticket, took the ride, but had no idea of what the ride would be like, and now can't get off. Couldn't have happened to a nicer chap.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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He's let the admirable town of Romford in Essex down, he's let the honourable profession of estate agents down, but most of all he's let himself down there 
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