Chris O'Grady

[JBizzle]

Pretty fair response I think

I agree with one negative, although the recruitment guys have done well recruiting this summer we still have one clear gap, and one we all could see as a glaring gap: a replacement for Ulloa.

Now I'm certain that this is no easy task and we failed to replace Murray until Ulloa arrived, but in signing Baldock and Colunga (and I'm not writing them off either, both could be great successes come May 2015), neither provide anything different to CMS. We are constantly swapping like for like. Opposition defences know exactly what to expect from all three.

This is my only unanswered question about the recruitment team and I'm excited to see how this develops.

 

[Albion Dan]

Sorry, how exactly? Because one player may or may not be getting shipped out?

Stockdale, Hughes, Bennett, Holla, Gardner, Teixeira, McCourt...all looking good and recruited by the same system. In previous seasons (just since moving to the Amex!) -.

The majority of players on your list are all looking ok (Not convinced by Stockdale at all or that all are an improvement on what we've lost) but the real failure of the recruitment team is that it has left us looking very weak up front and nowhere even close to replacing the role the Leo Ulloa played in the side. No goal scorer equals few goals equals tough season.

 

[chaileyjem]

the real failure of the recruitment team is that it has left us looking very weak up front and nowhere even close to replacing the role the Leo Ulloa played in the side. No goal scorer equals few goals equals tough season.

Ulloa scored once in his first 5 league starts for the Albion.
Baldock has so far started 3 matches for the club, O Grady and Colunga also haven't started 5 times yet.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Ulloa scored once in his first 5 league starts for the Albion.
Baldock has so far started 3 matches for the club, O Grady and Colunga also haven't started 5 times yet.

Would it not more fair to include the goal he scored on his competetive debut against Arsenal?

 

[durrington gull]

COG is a league 1 player - end of

 

[hans kraay fan club]

COG is a league 1 player - end of

End of, is such a shit term, in a debate.

For what its worth, O'Grady scored 15 goals in the Championship last season, in a shit team. That is not the record of a league One player.

 

[Seasidesage]

COG is a league 1 player - end of

End of? He scored 15 goals in the Championship for a relegated team last season. He might not fit into our pattern of play or have settled here or anyone of a million other reasons why it's not worked out. He's made 4 appearances, 4, how can anyone judge on that?

 

[chaileyjem]

Would it not more fair to include the goal he scored on his competetive debut against Arsenal?

And magnificent it was, but its just to illustrate the point that I don't think you can't conclude much after only 3, 4 or even 5 games.
and no worries i'm fairly certain you're not persuaded on this issue...

 

[Miami Seagull]

What has that got to do with the player identification / recruitment team?

Er..everything if they haven't been effectively replaced...

 

[saafend_seagull]

End of, is such a shit term, in a debate.

For what its worth, O'Grady scored 15 goals in the Championship last season, in a shit team. That is not the record of a league One player.

Okay. CMS scored a SHIT load in league one.

What does that make him?

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

And magnificent it was, but its just to illustrate the point that I don't think you can't conclude much after only 3, 4 or even 5 games.
and no worries i'm fairly certain you're not persuaded on this issue...

I'm not sure what you think I need persuading about? I may also add that I've been supportive of Baldock, and despite my initial lack of enthusiasm for COGnI've given him my full support too. Cheers anyway

 

[durrington gull]

Let's be honest here- COG is a lge1 player

 

[ewe2]

Let's be honest here- COG is a lge1 player

What like the rest of our strikers !.....But they have the chance to make the step.(and some do !!! )

 

[brightonrock]

Fair enough, except that Kuszczak, Upson, Bridge, Ward, Buckley, Conway, Orlandi, Vicente, Lopez, Ulloa are no longer at the club, and the current squad does not look as good as the previous couple of seasons.

But were they or were they not recruited by the same system? The fact they're not here anymore doesn't change the fact the same system brought them in the first place. I'd say the fact they were successes should afford the recruitment team a little trust from us, that they'll continue to bring in similarly good players. Whether the squad is better, worse or similar is a matter of opinion, fair enough - but even if you're not happy with how it is at the moment, should you not have faith in the guys working behind the scenes to bring in replacements, based on their track record?

The majority of players on your list are all looking ok (Not convinced by Stockdale at all or that all are an improvement on what we've lost) but the real failure of the recruitment team is that it has left us looking very weak up front and nowhere even close to replacing the role the Leo Ulloa played in the side. No goal scorer equals few goals equals tough season.

I agree we look short of a natural goal scorer - but having said that, Baldock has been out injured and could yet be that man. He's similar in style to CMS but maybe he'll be more prolific? Personally I wouldn't say the recruitment team have failed in that respect anyway, yes we've struggled for a consistent goalscorer since Murray left, but we've still finished in the top 10 three seasons in a row - sharing the goals around can be as good as a 25 a season man, because you get too reliant on one guy to put them away. I'm happy to give the new manager and newly assembled squad some time - the way we've played the last few games, I have no concerns whatsoever. They're gelling and playing better and better, and somebody is going to get an absolute pasting off us in the not too distant future. After Garcia's miserly defence yet shot-shy reign, Sami's complete about turn of fast counter-attacking football is going to take some getting used to, but we're SO close to where we need to be. We'll go on a run soon, I can feel it in my bones.

Let's be honest here- COG is a lge1 player

He scored more goals in a relegated team than Ulloa did in a side that got to the play-offs. I don't think he's going to be the man to fire us to the Premier League, but he is certainly more than just a League 1 player, he is solid at this level. That said, you've just posted exactly what you did the first time so you're clearly not interested in a discussion about him, your mind is made up. Fair enough, good luck to you.

 

[Horses Arse]

What like the rest of our strikers !.....But they have the chance to make the step.(and some do !!! )

If the rumours about Simon Church are for real it looks like we're done with league 1 strikers and are chancing our arm with league 2 quality.

Ulloa aside there's something quite broken with our striker recruitment.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

If the rumours about Simon Church are for real it looks like we're done with league 1 strikers and are chancing our arm with league 2 quality.

Ulloa aside there's something quite broken with our striker recruitment.

Please don't say we are signing Simon 'Barndoor' Church.

Would rather keep O'Grady.

 

[ewe2]

If the rumours about Simon Church are for real it looks like we're done with league 1 strikers and are chancing our arm with league 2 quality.

Ulloa aside there's something quite broken with our striker recruitment.

I can only agree with you,and when (if ) we find a striker,we sell him as soon as soon as he is wanted in the premiership.So IMO we want a half decent striker that will not be quite prem standard .....now COG scored 15 last year in the championship ......!

 

[Seasidesage]

Please don't say we are signing Simon 'Barndoor' Church.

Would rather keep O'Grady.

Don't think you will need to worry. He's just dislocated his shoulder playing for Wales...

 

[RM-Taylor]

Time to change the words to his chant slightly:

Every time he gets the ball,
You know his got his back to goal, (could change this to a non-friendly version and instead say 'you know he's gonna do f#ck all')
O'Grady, Chris O'Grady,
We're gonna sell him on to you,
And guarantee he'll score a few,
O'Grady, Chris O'Grady

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

I prefer the Commodores version. "He played once , twice , three times O'Grady"