[News] China protests over Zero-Covid policy

[The Clamp]

What communist rule?

In order to have a communist state, you have to have a communist ideology. Otherwise it is not a communist state.

Russia is not a democracy just because they claim to be one. China is not a communist country just because they claim to be one. And if I claim to be the Queen of England, it doesn't make me the Queen of England... because in all these cases, there are critera that needs to be fulfilled for these things to be true. And there is no state that has lived up to Communist criteria, so there has been no communist countries or rulers (although some tried but barely got halfway).

Even when you are making the same point as someone, you come across as combative, contrary and smug. You are arguing the same point Zzzzzzzzz

 

[Swansman]

Even when you are making the same point as someone, you come across as combative, contrary and smug. You are arguing the same point Zzzzzzzzz

Meh. Always the same shit when it comes to right-wingers discussing communism - saying the ideology doesn't work while pointing at and referring to "communist" states that weren't communist.
As for "zzz" - put me on ignore if you find it boring

 

[Bozza]

Meh. Always the same shit when it comes to right-wingers discussing communism - saying the ideology doesn't work while pointing at and referring to "communist" states that weren't communist.
As for "zzz" - put me on ignore if you find it boring

Fella - help me out, please.

Every thread I open is you arguing with someone.

Back off a bit. Go somewhere else (Chelsea forum?) for a while.

You contribute a lot of good stuff, but I'm getting tired of the less good stuff and I can't imagine I'm alone.

 

[Swansman]

Fella - help me out, please.

Every thread I open is you arguing with someone.

Back off a bit. Go somewhere else (Chelsea forum?) for a while.

You contribute a lot of good stuff, but I'm getting tired of the less good stuff and I can't imagine I'm alone.

Sure.

f*** Chelsea and their board though.

Nice betting ads by the way.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Even when you are making the same point as someone, you come across as combative, contrary and smug. You are arguing the same point Zzzzzzzzz

You knocked off your Macdonalds shift early tonight

 

[The Clamp]

You knocked off your Macdonalds shift early tonight

Yeah, I ate all the frozen burger patties again. So we shut up early .

 

[Bozza]

Nice betting ads by the way.

Jesus. Are you able to post without trying to have a dig at someone?

I've followed the recent gambling thread with interest. As a newbie around these parts, you're probably unaware of my gambling past, and betting thousands of pounds on random horse races to try and make up past losses. Or popping thousands of pounds down on red or black in a casino at the end of a boozy night out. Bad stuff when in a bad place.

NSC has no arrangement nor contractual link to any betting company. All banner ads on NSC are provided through a single ad platform who supply ads on a per user per page basis.

That means the ads any NSCer sees on the sire are likely, although not guaranteed, to be provided based on the known background of that NSCer, which will draw strongly upon their past browsing activities. As such everyone will receive different ads based on a wide range of variables. I've never been served a gambling ad on NSC.

Putting 2 and 2 together, I'm guessing you've had one/some bookie ads on here and thought you'd slyly have a pop at me. If you have, I've not chosen them to be there, and NSC will not profit vastly if you go on to join a bookie and lose £1m over the next year or two.

NSC earns, on average, 1/5th of one penny for each page you view on the site. Neither NSC, nor me, are getting rich on any advert that has been served to you.

 

[Swansman]

Jesus. Are you able to post without trying to have a dig at someone?

I've followed the recent gambling thread with interest. As a newbie around these parts, you're probably unaware of my gambling past, and betting thousands of pounds on random horse races to try and make up past losses. Or popping thousands of pounds down on red or black in a casino at the end of a boozy night out.

NSC has no arrangement nor contractual link to any betting company. All banner ads on NSC are provided through a single ad platform who supply ads on a per user per page basis.

That means the ads any NSCer sees on the sire are likely, although not guaranteed, to be provided based on the known background of that NSCer, which will draw strongly upon their past browsing activities. As such everyone will receive different ads based on a wide range of variables. I've never been served a gambling ad on NSC.

Putting 2 and 2 together, I'm guessing you've had one/some bookie ads on here and thought you'd slyly have a pop at me. If you have, I've not chosen them to be there, and NSC will not profit vastly if you go on to join a bookie and lose £1m over the next year or two.

NSC earns, on average, 1/5th of one penny for each page you view on the site. Neither NSC, nor me, are getting rich on any advert that has been served to you.

Well, before I go on hiatus then, a final piece of advice: there was no betting ads on the old NSC. I don't know if you've changed ad provider.
But if you are using one that is displaying betting ads - you might as well do it yourself instead. For reals. I wouldn't mind if you made some pennies out of NSC and if these questionable ads are going to be there anyway, it would be sensible if you had those affiliate links linked to your account rather than to the third-party service. Not sure if it is possible to adjust so that different ads are still shown for different visitors depending on behaviour while running it yourself... but like I said, much preferable if you get the real profits rather than some scummy third party service.

Anyway, see you all at some point.

 

[Zeberdi]

Every thread I open is you arguing with someone.

Back off a bit. Go somewhere else (Chelsea forum?) for a while.

I’m sure I said much the same thing a few weeks ago

Sure.

f*** Chelsea and their board though.

You have to admire the Chutzpah though

 

[Bozza]

Well, before I go on hiatus then, a final piece of advice: there was no betting ads on the old NSC. I don't know if you've changed ad provider.
But if you are using one that is displaying betting ads - you might as well do it yourself instead. For reals. I wouldn't mind if you made some pennies out of NSC and if these questionable ads are going to be there anyway, it would be sensible if you had those affiliate links linked to your account rather than to the third-party service. Not sure if it is possible to adjust so that different ads are still shown for different visitors depending on behaviour while running it yourself... but like I said, much preferable if you get the real profits rather than some scummy third party service.

Anyway, see you all at some point.

Nope. Same ad provider today that has been supplying 100% of ads to NSC for the last 3-4 years.

When you view a page on NSC an auction happens in a micro-second to determine what ads you see. Whoever deems your eyeballs most valuable gets to show you their ad.

I’ve never seen a single gambling advert on the site and I use the same site template with the same ad units as everyone else.

I’m well aware of how much NSC could earn if I carpet-bombed the site in affiliated gambling links. I’m not stupid. But I never have taken that route.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

What communist rule?

In order to have a communist state, you have to have a communist ideology. Otherwise it is not a communist state.

Russia is not a democracy just because they claim to be one. China is not a communist country just because they claim to be one. And if I claim to be the Queen of England, it doesn't make me the Queen of England... because in all these cases, there are critera that needs to be fulfilled for these things to be true. And there is no state that has lived up to Communist criteria, so there has been no communist countries or rulers (although some tried but barely got halfway).

Wrong, there doesn't need to be any criteria met other than for those in charge to believe in it. As long as the CCP feel they are still the spirit of Mao then no matter what other deviations happen they still think they are Communists. No Wikipedia meaning will alter that fact.

Even in an extreme right Nazi Germany the epitome of a fascist state they held incredibly by modern standards progressive views on championimg renewable energy, and institutionalized organic farming and land use planning on a level unmatched by any nation past or present.

Thus despite being brown, they also were green. Is anyone saying they weren't actually a fascist state because they held progressive green views?

 

[beorhthelm]

proper riots overnight in Guangzhou.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

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That means the ads any NSCer sees on the sire are likely, although not guaranteed, to be provided based on the known background of that NSCer, which will draw strongly upon their past browsing activities. As such everyone will receive different ads based on a wide range of variables. I've never been served a gambling ad on NSC.

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So, tell me this. Why are most of the ads I get to see attempting to sell me Ladies Underwear*?

(I think Swanny has brought out the bully in some people. Understandably this just spurs him on. It reminds me of my primary school playground in the 1960s. I can understand your exasperation, though )

*I made that up. Obviously I shop in reputable establishments, not bloody Amazon!)

 

[nicko31]

proper riots overnight in Guangzhou.

Crowds in major Chinese city Guangzhou clash with riot police in hazmat suits over zero-COVID policy

One video posted online shows objects being thrown at riot police in all-white pandemic gear, holding shields over their heads, as they advance in formation over torn down lockdown barriers. Another clip shows a tear gas canister landing in the middle of a crowd.

news.sky.com

The worry with China is if they think they are at risk of losing power they will start doing things to cause distraction, like attacking Taiwan

 

[WATFORD zero]

I’m sure I said much the same thing a few weeks ago

Your account didn't exist a few weeks ago

 

[LamieRobertson]

So, tell me this. Why are most of the ads I get to see attempting to sell me Ladies Underwear*?

(I think Swanny has brought out the bully in some people. Understandably this just spurs him on. It reminds me of my primary school playground in the 1960s. I can understand your exasperation, though )

*I made that up. Obviously I shop in reputable establishments, not bloody Amazon!)

Accurate advertising at last ..no pics though please Harry

 

[WATFORD zero]

So, tell me this. Why are most of the ads I get to see attempting to sell me Ladies Underwear*?

Because they've obviously used your adolescent history with Freemans catalogues. It's wonderful what they can do with technology these days

 

[chickens]

Nope. Same ad provider today that has been supplying 100% of ads to NSC for the last 3-4 years.

When you view a page on NSC an auction happens in a micro-second to determine what ads you see. Whoever deems your eyeballs most valuable gets to show you their ad.

I’ve never seen a single gambling advert on the site and I use the same site template with the same ad units as everyone else.

I’m well aware of how much NSC could earn if I carpet-bombed the site in affiliated gambling links. I’m not stupid. But I never have taken that route.

Joking aside (and apologies for being so far off-topic I’ll need a map to get back) but have you considered setting up a (completely optional) Patreon for NSC?

I don’t know the details of what’s involved, and I couldn’t afford to bung more than a quid your way each month, but I’d be happy to pay that. Appreciate if I’m the only person thinking this way it’s a non-starter, but the idea might deserve a thread/poll of its own. Perhaps for a suitably sized monthly donation those who wished could view ad-free?

 

[Zeberdi]

Your account didn't exist a few weeks ago

check the join date under my avatar

 

[Zeberdi]

Looks like the riots have flared up again over night. Interestingly the Chinese are blaming foreign involvement in instigating the protests anything but accept any responsibility for why people are protesting

Crowds in major Chinese city Guangzhou clash with riot police in hazmat suits over zero-COVID policy

One video posted online shows objects being thrown at riot police in all-white pandemic gear, holding shields over their heads, as they advance in formation over torn down lockdown barriers. Another clip shows a tear gas canister landing in the middle of a crowd.

news.sky.com