Children in pubs: GOOD or BAD?

[rool]

Good stuff! Glad to hear its happening somewhere... By the One Stop (stupid 24hr quick-e-mart by the station) here in Shoreham-By-Sea I have never seen such dreadful, idiotic, slovenly, drunk, swearing, non property respecting, selfish 10-16year olds during school holidays! It really gets me wound up! and I blame the parents - but I'll stop now before I burst a blood vessel

That's my yardstick. I used to live in Crabtree Lane Lancing. I regularly used to walk to the offy and there was always a group of chavs outside. If they weren't wrecking the phone box, they were usually gobbing or swearing at someone. Over here they will acknowledge you and pass brief pleasantries albeit with a feck in there somewhere . I have always been impressed at how even the under 10's can have a decent conversation with an adult.

It's all down to the kids being treated as part of the family and not just an inconvenience to be palmed off at the earliest opportunity IMO.

 

[Cian]

Apart from the compulsive swearing, which I find most people in Ireland suffer from for some reason, I have to say the kids are a lot more respectful to adults than their English equivalents.

What f***ing compulsive swearing?

 

[rospants]

fine as long as they get tied to a chair and gagged

 

[rool]

What f***ing compulsive swearing?

It was a shock to me when I first moved over to have the solicitor, bank manager and accountant all throwing a f*** mid sentance into our conversations.

 

[Zamora For England]

Maybe during the day but not at night when people are going for a pint after work.

 

[jevs]

I think my local....The Tally Ho in Lewes has it pretty well balanced.

Kids allowed in until 7pm but they are not allowed at the bar or allowed to run about. If the pub's busy, the kids have to sit with their parents but otherwise, they can play pool.

My 8 year old daughter loves coming up there with me but she usually takes some drawing and colouring stuff as she starts getting bored.

 

[tedebear]

I wonder how many people without kids voted against them in pubs, before I had Arthur I probably would have definitely said no, but now - I appreciate being able to take him!

 

[cannedheat]

Why would anyone in there right mind want to take children into a smoke filled room is beyond me.
And yes I do have children, grown up now but I never ever took them to the pub.

 

[Cian]

No smoke in pubs here = has resulted in Sunday evenings having more rugrats than your average primary school in most pubs with food.

 

[Monkey Man]

Why would anyone in there right mind want to take children into a smoke filled room is beyond me.
And yes I do have children, grown up now but I never ever took them to the pub.

Why any adult would want to go into a smoke filled room is beyond me.

But air cleaners and smoke-free areas all come into play. And in good weather we go outdoors.

 

[Richard Whiteley]

people in this country are miserbale gits when it comes to kids.

 

[British Bulldog]

I dont see a problem with taking kids into pubs as long as the parents keep them under control.

 

[Gwylan]

people in this country are miserbale gits when it comes to kids.

That's absolutely right: kids get moaned at for going in pubs, restaurants, shopping centres, parks, buses, trains...just about everywhere in fact,.

Of course, kids should be allowed in pubs. in mainland Europe this wouldn't be an issue, kids learn to drink sensibly as part of family group. But because we have attitudes like 'keep children out of pubs until they're 18' they don't learn sensible attitudes until they're behaving like dickheads down West St on a Saturday night.

 

[chez]

Bad, kids shouldnt be allowed in pubs. I would never take my kid to a pub - some blokes go to pubs to get away from screaming kids.

 

[tedebear]

Bad, kids shouldnt be allowed in pubs. I would never take my kid to a pub - some blokes go to pubs to get away from screaming kids.

My son doesn't scream? Nor do most of the well behaved kids in our social circle - wonder what that says about the parents!!

 

[CHAPPERS]

My son doesn't scream? Nor do most of the well behaved kids in our social circle - wonder what that says about the parents!!

You're not hitting him hard enough?

 

[Gwylan]

some blokes go to pubs to get away from screaming kids.

I hate sounding like an old Tory but isn't this part of the problem. If fathers are so indifferent to the idea of raising children that they want to escape from it, is it any wonder that there's so much social dislocation?

And to go back to MoH's original question, there should no room for screaming kids but if pub-owners (and other adults) started treating children as human beings then they might start behaving better.

 

[tedebear]

You're not hitting him hard enough?

Never hit him and don't intend to! Arthur completely understands a very stern voice!

 

[tedebear]

I hate sounding like an old Tory but isn't this part of the problem. If fathers are so indifferent to the idea of raising children that they want to escape from it, is it any wonder that there's so much social dislocation?

And to go back to MoH's original question, there should no room for screaming kids but if pub-owners (and other adults) started treating children as human beings then they might start behaving better.

I agree, I also believe that discipline should come from both Mum and Dad - and not the threat of Mum dobbing you in to Dad when he gets back from the pub!

I believe its parents who are too lazy to discipline..Its too hard and its too frustrating so they just let it slide....

 

[Lammy]

I agree, I also believe that discipline should come from both Mum and Dad - and not the threat of Mum dobbing you in to Dad when he gets back from the pub!

I believe its parents who are too lazy to discipline..Its too hard and its too frustrating so they just let it slide....

Too much emphasis on disipline and not enough mention of LOVE here people.

To my mind kids respond far better to positive attention when they do something good than negative attention when they do something bad.

But hey this is going WAY off topic here.

I'm with Tedebear though. Before I had childen I would have voted no in a flash!