Of all the clubs in the FL, I believe that we are the most inclusive of all... Children-Friendly, Gay-Friendly, Female-Friendly, etc ad infinitum for any section of our local society.
I have read his supporters' website and read bits and pieces on his trial and appeal in the mainstream press, but I will be persuaded by the evidence presented so far in court and presume, as they did, that he was guilty.
There is a Rehabilitation of Offenders Act and at some future date, he has the right to have his past mistakes forgotten - this is good and right. But not yet.
This club would do irreparable harm to its reputation to take him on (as would most other clubs). Some have no such reputation to tarnish and so I'm sure he will play somewhere but I wish it wasn't the case.
So, rehabilitation, payed debt to society, changed man......
Nevermind eh, maybe he can start work as a late night minicab driver, would that you make you feel safe when your family are waiting for a cab home, at least he won't be playing football.
Ex cons, hang em all eh.
So, rehabilitation, payed debt to society, changed man......
Nevermind eh, maybe he can start work as a late night minicab driver, would that you make you feel safe when your family are waiting for a cab home, at least he won't be playing football.
Ex cons, hang em all eh.
Wasn't there allegations of Robin Van Persie raping someone when he was younger. Im sure you wouldn't turn down him joining us
I think it matters what the crime is and in this instance he forced himself on someone who had at some point declined to have sex but he forced himaelf upon them purley fior his own gratification with no thought to the victim,I feel sex cases very rarely ch ange as it is a sexual desire or are you saying pedos or sadists change?? ,as for a mini cab driver id find it hard to beleive someone would employ him as that and if they do I cant change the way companies work as we have seen on the press some people on the S.E.R have had jobs in schools . football is (rightly or wrongly) part of a multi media entertainment and will influence people and chilsren therefore I stick by what I have said about C.E, or do yyou also think Rolf Harris should be let go and back on tv as what he did was years ago?
Taking drugs banned by sporting governing bodies or match-fixing are breaches of the rules or laws of those sports. It's beyond their remit to start banning people for things outside the sporting arena (in the loosest sense).
In case you don't agree, let me put an image in your mind that I'm sure will convince you: Sepp Blatter deciding on the rights and wrongs of banning a player guilty of rape.
Lee Hughes...convicted murderer...hit and run...legged it from the scene...happily plying his trade in league football.
Rape...Murder...where do they stand?....is one more acceptable than the other or should they both be ' no go areas ' for rehabilitation or re-employment in football?
Perhaps, rather than returning to full pay, they are are only allowed a set max salary say an average living wage like £25k per year or something. Let's see how long Ched Evans girlfriend sticks by him if that was enforced.
People talk about rehabilitation and returning to work after your time, but how many ex-cons walk straight back into £20k per week or what have you - most have to work hard to earn trust back into society (or carry on offending of course…). Football should be able to apply rules that say a player returning from a conviction has a max allowable salary for the same amount of time as their sentence.
Your post outlines my original point. At what stage did general society have the right given to them/us to punish someone beyond the punishment served as demanded by our justice system?
Your post outlines my original point. At what stage did general society have the right given to them/us to punish someone beyond the punishment served as demanded by our justice system?
So, rehabilitation, payed debt to society, changed man......
Nevermind eh, maybe he can start work as a late night minicab driver, would that you make you feel safe when your family are waiting for a cab home, at least he won't be playing football.
Ex cons, hang em all eh.
Good post but for the bit outlined in bold, this act is now irrelevant because of something called criminal record check, now known as DBS. Offences are now never to be forgotten I guess.
Private organisations have always had the right to decide who they employ, so the answer is always. A serious sexual crime conviction is a reasonable criteria for not employing somebody is a sport marketed at kids and in which your customer base may well include many survivors of sexual abuse - who you would then be asking asking to actively applaud and "support" said offender.
Perhaps, rather than returning to full pay, they are are only allowed a set max salary say an average living wage like £25k per year or something. Let's see how long Ched Evans girlfriend sticks by him if that was enforced.
People talk about rehabilitation and returning to work after your time, but how many ex-cons walk straight back into £20k per week or what have you - most have to work hard to earn trust back into society (or carry on offending of course…). Football should be able to apply rules that say a player returning from a conviction has a max allowable salary for the same amount of time as their sentence.
Certain offences are never "rehabilitated" [eg murder] and must always be declared. Certain occupations/roles/checks made are also exempt from the Act. But for a "day-to-day check", a spent conviction does not need to be declared and will not be returned on a check. Telling someone else about a person's spent convictions "with malicious intent" is actually an offence under the Act.