Charlie Gilmour-The Rich Sussex Anarchist

[Tricky Dicky]

It always makes me laugh when these "student protesters" throw objects at the police, riot, etc, and then scream like babies when the Old Bill whack them in return.

Indeed, I'm starting to have sympathy for the police in all this. It is now standard practice for demonstrators to film every single action by the police, so if they do the slightest thing out of line they get mauled, but the demonstrators think they can to anything they like.

 

[shingle]

Peoples poet (young ones) That is exactly what came to mind when I took pictures of the twat last Thursday

Here he is Zenfolio | Grant Rooney Photographer | student demonstrator

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Peoples poet (young ones) That is exactly what came to mind when I took pictures of the twat last Thursday

Those photos are hilarious. You must be able to sell those.

 

[shingle]

Those photos are hilarious. You must be able to sell those.

I wasn't sure it was him at first, it was only when I saw pictures in the papers that I realized that it was, and by then it was too late.

 

[Dandyman]

Here we go again. Obviously it's far easier to highlight one little rich boy than consider the effect of rmoving EMA fronm families on low incomes or the effect of slashing University funding on the future of this country. I can't help wondering also if people would be quite so gung-ho about students getting a shoeing if at one of our away games the Police decide we can't follow a previously agreed route to and from the ground, we then get held for 3 hours on a freezing cold night with no access to toilets or hot drinks, and the OB decide that the use of horses and dogs is exactly what is needed to calm the situation.

 

[Pavilionaire]

For what it's worth, my wife used to work with Gilmour's daughter and the policy was very much "pay your own way" rather than "here's a silver spoon".

I feel a bit sorry for Dave Gilmour. The fact the lad studied history and didn't know he was hanging from the Cenotaph makes it even worse.

 

[shingle]

I thought that the Police behaved with remarkable restraint on Thursday. During my hour and half in Parliament sq they were subjected to constant missile throwing by a small minority of agitators, and didn't respond. Got hit with sticks and paint bombs, but just stood there and took it.

 

[The Spanish]

For what it's worth, my wife used to work with Gilmour's daughter and the policy was very much "pay your own way" rather than "here's a silver spoon".

I feel a bit sorry for Dave Gilmour. The fact the lad studied history and didn't know he was hanging from the Cenotaph makes it even worse.

fair play if true but there is more to wealth and privilege in terms of advantage than just ready cash. you can pay your own way a lot easier if you have connections to move you on in life without a penny changing hands for those introductions or contacts. i am not moaning about it thats life. its just a little disingenuous to claim you are making your kids pay their way in life when that job is being on the books of select model agency because of the circles you move in.

 

[Billy the Fish]

than consider the effect of rmoving EMA fronm families on low incomes

Some 16-18 year olds might have to get a part time job instead. Whatever you think of university funding, EMA is a bit of a joke. Fair enough, there should be something to help poorer families with travel and school equipment but paying someone £20 a week to do a-levels takes the piss a bit. Another Labour gimmick to buy votes

 

[Pavilionaire]

I think the key thing is whether a kid goes out to work or not. Whether or not earning their own money is "make or break" is immaterial. I'm sure Stella McCartney was helped along the way by daddy, but she's now a British success story helping jobs, taxes etc.

 

[The Spanish]

I think the key thing is whether a kid goes out to work or not. Whether or not earning their own money is "make or break" is immaterial. I'm sure Stella McCartney was helped along the way by daddy, but she's now a British success story helping jobs, taxes etc.

fair points but can we not just please properly hate him for a bit longer. the whole nation is currently enjoying this inverted snobbery lets at least let it run its course before we start saying oh hes a good kid really.

 

[Dandyman]

Some 16-18 year olds might have to get a part time job instead. Whatever you think of university funding, EMA is a bit of a joke. Fair enough, there should be something to help poorer families with travel and school equipment but paying someone £20 a week to do a-levels takes the piss a bit. Another Labour gimmick to buy votes

EMA means kids who once upon a time would not have done A Levels or higher level NVQs have the opportunity to do so. I am sure I not the only one who is old enough to remember school friends who were brighter than me leaving at 16 because their parents expected them to bring money into the household. Focusing on Gilmour Minor just seems a fairly cynical way of diverting attention from the real issues.

 

[Pavilionaire]

fair points but can we not just please properly hate him for a bit longer. the whole nation is currently enjoying this inverted snobbery lets at least let it run its course before we start saying oh hes a good kid really.

I agree with you. He's a twat.

 

[Stoo82]

Are these the poor kids who all have a 32" TV with playstation 3 in their bedrooms who then go and invite their mates round on their Iphone 4?

Oh and didn't the gap between rich and poor GROW under the Labour government?

 

[Dandyman]

I thought that the Police behaved with remarkable restraint on Thursday. During my hour and half in Parliament sq they were subjected to constant missile throwing by a small minority of agitators, and didn't respond. Got hit with sticks and paint bombs, but just stood there and took it.

Not sure all of them showed that much restraint...

BBC News - London student has brain injury
A student suffered bleeding to the brain when he was struck by a police truncheon during the tuition fees protest, his mother has alleged.

Alfie Meadows, 20, of Middlesex University, was hit on the head as he tried to leave Westminster Abbey area, his mother Susan Matthews said.

Mr Meadows had a three-hour operation and is now in a stable condition.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission has begun an inquiry and is appealing for witnesses.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "We are aware of a 20-year-old male with a head injury who is currently in hospital."

No 'martyr'

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) is currently gathering evidence, including CCTV, police logs and working to trace witnesses.

A spokesman said: "The investigation will seek to establish the nature of any police contact that took place, and whether any police actions were lawful, proportionate and necessary."

Hundreds of protesters converged near Parliament on Thursday as MPs voted to increase university tuition fees to £9,000.

Several protesters and police officers were injured as the demonstration turned violent.

Hundreds of protesters converged in Parliament Square during the voting Mrs Matthews, 55, an English literature lecturer at Roehampton University, said her son had described being struck as "the hugest blow he ever felt in his life".

"The surface wound wasn't very big but three hours after the blow, he suffered bleeding to the brain.

"Basically he had a stroke last night. He couldn't speak or move his hand."

Speaking at a vigil outside Charing Cross Hospital, she said her son, a second-year undergraduate philosophy student, said: "He's smiling, he's chatting and he's just Alfie. He's all there."

He was attending the protest with friends, including two lecturers, Nina Power, his mother's colleague, and Peter Hallward, a philosophy lecturer at Kingston University.

About 40 students held a vigil for Alfie Meadows outside Charing Cross hospital He was injured as the group tried to leave the area after police began a "kettling" operation, Mrs Matthews said.

He called his mother to tell her he was injured.

Mrs Matthews, who was also among the protesters in a different area, said: "I got out of the kettle and met him and he told me all about it. He knew he had to go to hospital but he didn't initially know how bad it was.

"The policeman offered to get him an ambulance but he was in shock and didn't know how serious it was."

He was later taken to Charing Cross Hospital in west London and underwent surgery as his condition deteriorated.

She said her "extraordinarily idealistic and committed" son had been given advice by student union on how to stay safe.

"He would never try to be a martyr.

"Alfie said to me before this happened 'Somebody is going to get killed'. It's very frightening," she said.

She said she felt "very strongly" about the "way in which these events are being policed".

London Mayor Boris Johnson said: "I am appalled by the violence and I deeply regret that as we talk there's a student who has suffered injuries.

"It is very, very difficult for the police to strike a balance in this matter and you will remember how fiercely they were criticised for the kettling operation during the G20 protests, the tragedy of Ian Tomlinson, it is extremely difficult."

More than 2,800 Metropolitan Police officers were on duty.

 

[Stoo82]

Is it proved he was hit by a copper?

 

[steward 433]

Quite frankly if you riot you risk getting hit with a baton. Simples!!!

If he wasn't there rioting he wouldn't have got hit.

Oh and as an afterthought Stoo82 is correct in asking is there video evidence he was hit by a baton and if so why?

 

[sten_super]

EMA means kids who once upon a time would not have done A Levels or higher level NVQs have the opportunity to do so. I am sure I not the only one who is old enough to remember school friends who were brighter than me leaving at 16 because their parents expected them to bring money into the household. Focusing on Gilmour Minor just seems a fairly cynical way of diverting attention from the real issues.

But the general consensus (I don't know enough about it to comment) seems to be that it was using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Yes there are people that it encouraged to attend further education who otherwise wouldn't, but there are a number of others that just saw it as their booze money for the weekend sorted courtesy of the taxpayer. The coalition have said that they will replace it with more targetted measures.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Quite frankly if you riot you risk getting hit with a baton. Simples!!!

If he wasn't there rioting he wouldn't have got hit.

Oh and as an afterthought Stoo82 is correct in asking is there video evidence he was hit by a baton and if so why?

And just in the name of balance, were there not about 22 officers needing hospital treatment ?

 

[Stoo82]

And just in the name of balance, were there not about 22 officers needing hospital treatment ?

Well this artical says that they were beaten by their own officers (FACISTS!) to make the students (let the Atheist God bless them) look bad. Its says so in this artical.

The Red Star: Police hit their own to make students look bad.