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Central midfield



Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
Average age of what, 21 between them? Most lightweight midfield ever, I think the majority of the rest of the team did their jobs today but JFC Ince and Gardner as a 3 is nowhere near good enough to be a regular central midfield in the championship. I genuinely think we've got good quality in pretty much every other area now.
 




ShanklySeagull

Justice for the 96...
May 30, 2011
396
Littlehampton
I agree - JFC in particular is very lightweight and ineffective. I would have preferred him to start with Holla.
 


Don Tmatter

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
5,035
dont matter
Certainly missing Crofts in there, need an old head to put his foot on the ball and dictate things, it's asking too much IMO for JFC, Ince & Gardner to boss a game, too many errors from the three of them.
 


theonesmith

Well-known member
Oct 27, 2008
2,337
Certainly missing Crofts in there, need an old head to put his foot on the ball and dictate things, it's asking too much IMO for JFC, Ince & Gardner to boss a game, too many errors from the three of them.

Agreed. They'll learn a lot from this experience, but it could also damage their development. It's not fair that fans are giving JFC such abuse (I don't mean constructive criticism, I mean booing before the game even starts), but its equally not fair that he's stuck in this position. But with Crofts & Stephens out, Holla out of form and Toko in no mans land...
 


Kazenga <3

Test 805843
Feb 28, 2010
4,870
Team c/r HQ
Nail on head. The midfield don't have the experience or physical prowess necessary to hold on when it's backs to the wall. Because of this the team panics when we get a lead and the opposition just waltzes through us down the middle and we end up overrun.

Whilst the midfield is clearly the biggest concern, I do worry that the full backs are suspect defensively too however good they are going forwards. Can't rely on the centre backs and keeper to do everything themselves.
 




Barry M

Active member
Jan 21, 2011
369
There's a lot of love for jfc on here but for me and the majority around me he's just not good enough. I don't see what he offers. Gardner is pretty poor as well, although today was one of his better games. Ince maybe rusty, but lacks that killer instinct and needs to learn to pass!
 


Luke93

STAND OR FALL
Jun 23, 2013
5,092
Shoreham
Hell, even Andrews and Hammond are better Championship midfeilders thsn our current bunch. Can't blame JFC though, he's a young talent who's squad player, not ready for starting 40 games per season. Desperately missing Crofts, Stephens and Bridcutt. Gardner, Ince and Holla are downgrades, but I expected much more firget from them.
 






Bra

Well-known member
Feb 21, 2009
1,366
patcham
Still don't see what JFC contributes to the team, seems to lightweight and conservative with his passing. Agree with the OP the current midfield is not good enough to compete in this league.
 


LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
48,426
SHOREHAM BY SEA
Average age of what, 21 between them? Most lightweight midfield ever, I think the majority of the rest of the team did their jobs today but JFC Ince and Gardner as a 3 is nowhere near good enough to be a regular central midfield in the championship. I genuinely think we've got good quality in pretty much every other area now.

Had exactly this conversation with other supporters on the walk back to the car
 






martin tyler

Well-known member
Jan 25, 2013
5,967
Experience is the problem. They don t have the nouse to take the sting out of a game a relieve pressure.
 


El Turi

Injured
Aug 13, 2005
7,178
Argentina
Totally agree. The annoying thing is Adam Clayton wanted to sign for us in the summer but the board decided against it.
 


sllugaes

New member
Dec 15, 2012
673
There's a lot of love for jfc on here but for me and the majority around me he's just not good enough. I don't see what he offers. Gardner is pretty poor as well, although today was one of his better games. Ince maybe rusty, but lacks that killer instinct and needs to learn to pass!

Ince needs to learn to pass - what are you going on about!
 








Washie

Well-known member
Jun 20, 2011
6,054
Eastbourne
Ince is not good enough yet. He was bullied off the ball far too easily, played some very poor balls and seemed to make a lot of poor decisions.
 


ferring seagull

Well-known member
Dec 30, 2010
4,607
He didn't turn up to his Boro medical twice as he was waiting for an offer from us but it never came as the board didn't want to spend the money. Hence why they signed Holla on a free instead.

I don't doubt you for one moment but if true is absolutely damning of the club's ambitions.

Adding to this thread, YES, JFC is hardly worthy of a place on the bench for all he contributes IMO.

Ince is a budding talent but like others will fail to impress if he isn't given a regular starting place which IMO he should be given.

Seriously hope that Dale Stephens will return to full fitness sooner rather than later !
 








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