Average age of what, 21 between them? Most lightweight midfield ever, I think the majority of the rest of the team did their jobs today but JFC Ince and Gardner as a 3 is nowhere near good enough to be a regular central midfield in the championship. I genuinely think we've got good quality in pretty much every other area now.
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Central midfield
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ShanklySeagull
Justice for the 96...
I agree - JFC in particular is very lightweight and ineffective. I would have preferred him to start with Holla.
Don Tmatter
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Certainly missing Crofts in there, need an old head to put his foot on the ball and dictate things, it's asking too much IMO for JFC, Ince & Gardner to boss a game, too many errors from the three of them.
theonesmith
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- Oct 27, 2008
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Agreed. They'll learn a lot from this experience, but it could also damage their development. It's not fair that fans are giving JFC such abuse (I don't mean constructive criticism, I mean booing before the game even starts), but its equally not fair that he's stuck in this position. But with Crofts & Stephens out, Holla out of form and Toko in no mans land...
Kazenga <3
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Nail on head. The midfield don't have the experience or physical prowess necessary to hold on when it's backs to the wall. Because of this the team panics when we get a lead and the opposition just waltzes through us down the middle and we end up overrun.
Whilst the midfield is clearly the biggest concern, I do worry that the full backs are suspect defensively too however good they are going forwards. Can't rely on the centre backs and keeper to do everything themselves.
Whilst the midfield is clearly the biggest concern, I do worry that the full backs are suspect defensively too however good they are going forwards. Can't rely on the centre backs and keeper to do everything themselves.
There's a lot of love for jfc on here but for me and the majority around me he's just not good enough. I don't see what he offers. Gardner is pretty poor as well, although today was one of his better games. Ince maybe rusty, but lacks that killer instinct and needs to learn to pass!
Hell, even Andrews and Hammond are better Championship midfeilders thsn our current bunch. Can't blame JFC though, he's a young talent who's squad player, not ready for starting 40 games per season. Desperately missing Crofts, Stephens and Bridcutt. Gardner, Ince and Holla are downgrades, but I expected much more firget from them.
Deanbha
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JFC is horseshit.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Had exactly this conversation with other supporters on the walk back to the car
durrington gull
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Is the correct answer - Jonny big bollocks who does f@@@ all
martin tyler
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- Jan 25, 2013
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Experience is the problem. They don t have the nouse to take the sting out of a game a relieve pressure.
sllugaes
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- Dec 15, 2012
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Ince needs to learn to pass - what are you going on about!
Behind Enemy Lines
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Is that true?
He didn't turn up to his Boro medical twice as he was waiting for an offer from us but it never came as the board didn't want to spend the money. Hence why they signed Holla on a free instead.
Washie
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Ince is not good enough yet. He was bullied off the ball far too easily, played some very poor balls and seemed to make a lot of poor decisions.
ferring seagull
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- Dec 30, 2010
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I don't doubt you for one moment but if true is absolutely damning of the club's ambitions.
Adding to this thread, YES, JFC is hardly worthy of a place on the bench for all he contributes IMO.
Ince is a budding talent but like others will fail to impress if he isn't given a regular starting place which IMO he should be given.
Seriously hope that Dale Stephens will return to full fitness sooner rather than later !
DarrenFreemansPerm
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We need Dale Stephens asap
BensGrandad
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Not looking good for him with Hypia wanting to extend Gardners loan. We are neither physically strong or experienced enough in midfield to string together some wins. Something has got to happen very soon.