Cenotaph climber revealed

[steward 433]

Wait till Guiness dave gets to hear about this....

Strangely enough that was my first thought!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Scampi]

Indeed, and he's a history student. He either knew what he was doing or this is another indictment on the failure of our education system to teach its people.

I like the way some people whip themselves up into fits of self-righteous nationalistic fury. Having worked in the Balkans during the exciting time that was the break up of Yugoslavia I take these natioalist symbols a little less seriously.

 

[Biscuit]

Oh no someone climbed on the cenotaph, it's the end of civilisation as we know it.

In a way, yes it is.

Erm no. It isn't.

 

[Stoo82]

I like the way some people whip themselves up into fits of self-righteous nationalistic fury. Having worked in the Balkans during the exciting time that was the break up of Yugoslavia I take these natioalist symbols a little less seriously.

What is nationalistic about remembering the dead?

 

[HovaGirl]

Oh get a grip man

Get a grip on what? This is a monument which represents the thousands of people who gave their lives to allow YOU to have the freedom to make your silly remarks. It was dishonoured on the same day a statue of Churchill was pissed upon, an ancient and revered tree in Glastonbury was destroyed and our next King was attacked by a mob.

If such important symbols of our lives, country and culture mean nothing to our young, then the seeds of our own destruction have very firmly taken root.

 

[xenophon]

"Smash the State" - Charlie Gilmour

You'll be alright anyway you little prick, Daddy's got £75MILLION in the bank

QE f***ing D

 

[Biscuit]

the seeds of our own destruction have very firmly taken root.

We're all dooomed!!

 

[nawtygully]

okay merry xmas to you all

 

[Gully]

If such important symbols of our lives, country and culture mean nothing to our young, then the seeds of our own destruction have very firmly taken root.

Those people demonstrating yesterday were demanding that we respect their point of view...well, in my opinion respect must be earnt and not demanded, a very good starting point is respecting others. The first I saw of the attack on the Royals was on the late evening news and when added to tales of pool balls and paint being thrown at the Police I was left with a very sick feeling, I know it was only a small minority perpetrating these acts but the above comment may be worryingly close to the mark.

 

[Scampi]

What is nationalistic about remembering the dead?

Fetishising the celebration of our glorious war heroes is intrinsically nationalistic. I''ve had to sit and listen to crass lectures from Serbs and Croats and Albanians who were trying to justify ethnic cleansing, and you know what a lot of their arguments involve the glorious defenders of the nation whose memories must be protected by driving women children and the elderly from their homes with a healthy dose of rape and murder, so you know I have a low tolerence level on these kind of things.

 

[Buzzer]

We're all dooomed!!

You were scraping the barrel with the Daily Mail comment, now you're just tedious.

People (myself included) are genuinely upset about what that prick, Gilmour, did. If all you're going to do is sneer at us then perhaps you're not quite so spectactular as you seem to think you are.

 

[xenophon]

Reading History at Cambridge no less, quelle surprise, he's more establishment than the Cenotaph itself

I'll say this, he's got a very punchable face, and it looks like someone has already punched his tart's nose for him

 

[HovaGirl]

Oh come on, it's not like there's anyone in there.

How ignorant can you get? It represents all our soldiers who have died, including those whose bodies are missing or blown to smithereens. It is our national gravestone. Would you climb all over your grandfather's gravestone?

 

[Buzzer]

Fetishising the celebration of our glorious war heroes is intrinsically nationalistic. I''ve had to sit and listen to crass lectures from Serbs and Croats and Albanians who were trying to justify ethnic cleansing, and you know what a lot of their arguments involve the glorious defenders of the nation whose memories must be protected by driving women children and the elderly from their homes with a healthy dose of rape and murder, so you know I have a low tolerence level on these kind of things.

Absolutely. Remembering the people from all walks of life who gave their lives for our freedom is exactly like Balkan nationalism.

Really, the comparisons are completely relevant and sensible.

 

[HovaGirl]

Lighten up, it's nearly xmas

Now, little Scampi, let's think what Christmas represents, eh?

 

[Gully]

Absolutely. Remembering the people from all walks of life who gave their lives for our freedom is exactly like Balkan nationalism.

Really, the comparisons are completely relevant and sensible.

Exactly, a fairly part of the reason we entered WWI, WWII, The Falklands Conflict and the first Gulf War, were largely due to extreme nationalism and occupation of other countries...to compare that with the Balkans is quite frankly insane.

 

[HovaGirl]

People place waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much emphasis in symbolism. Yeah, climbing on an important monument isn't a great idea but I'm pretty sure these people weren't saying "f*** the war veterens". As for shitting on someones grave, I really don't see how that would affect anything.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much emphasis on symbolism, eh? Do you like Christmas or Easter? Did you believe in Santa or the Tooth Fairy as a child? Do you celebrate your birthday with presents? Do you visit your grandfather's grave? Will you go to visit your mother's grave? Do you like the Seagulls' logo? What on earth do you think a football team symbolises?

 

[HovaGirl]

I like the way some people whip themselves up into fits of self-righteous nationalistic fury. Having worked in the Balkans during the exciting time that was the break up of Yugoslavia I take these natioalist symbols a little less seriously.

It's not a nationalist symbol. It's a symbol and remembrance of the dead. And what has the Balkans got to do with anything? Bulgaria and Greece have more symbols per square inch than we do.

 

[Scampi]

Absolutely. Remembering the people from all walks of life who gave their lives for our freedom is exactly like Balkan nationalism.

Really, the comparisons are completely relevant and sensible.

I'm sorry but the sort of juvenile " won't somebody think of the children" reactions of the likes of Hovagirl are exactly the sort of crap wheeled out by nationalists in the fromer yugoslavia. Gilmour junior is a bit of a tit, but he quite obviously didn't consciously decide to desecrate a the war memorial. His worse crime is not thinking at all, which is hardly a surprise caught up in the crowd as he and the demonstrators were. It's not exactly a hanging offense.

 

[Hillian1]

Stop feeding the trolls.