I just looked this up (because, as I wrote in my previous post, I'd forgotten) and all the reports I saw stated it supposed to be against private jets.
Which I appreciate doesn't make any difference to the argument.
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[TV] Captain Sir Tom Moore - *Died 2 Feb 2021*
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I just looked this up (because, as I wrote in my previous post, I'd forgotten) and all the reports I saw stated it supposed to be against private jets.
Which I appreciate doesn't make any difference to the argument.
I think her protest was rather muddled. My understanding is that she belongs to a protest group that is trying to end the use of private jets but this was about the NHS and done off her own bat.
I may have that wrong.
I think that the point was the effort that goes into saving the NHS and health care workers is meaningless while allowing the ongoing environmental disaster to continue.
Which while broadly true doesn't in any way validate her actions. I think I've put more thought into getting my head around her statement in the last 5minutes, than she put into the protest.
Billy the Fish
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I don't agree, context is absolutely key to how harshly a court will treat you. Everything gets taken into account.
Football is an obvious example. If I punch someone on west street on Saturday night I'd probably get away with a caution. If I do it at a football match it would go through the courts and probably a minimum of suspended sentence plus travel restrictions.
Regardless of this idiot woman’s protest, that’s not true.
I deal with people hitting each other in West St every Friday and Saturday night. You would get arrested and charged if you acted out of malice in punching someone.
The law rarely takes context into account. That’s why thousands of women are locked up for hurting or murdering abusive partners.
Weststander
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Outrage as Captain Tom's daughter 'uses charity's name' to build spa and pool
The family have been under investigation by the Charity Commission since last year.
metro.co.uk
The daughter and her husband, must demolish their new swimming pool complex. She built it partly for the needs of Tom's charitable foundation, of course.
Terry Butcher Tribute Act
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- Aug 18, 2013
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Very sad that a kind
old man was manipulated by an absolute Twatshow of a family that were happy to take the public for a ride
old man was manipulated by an absolute Twatshow of a family that were happy to take the public for a ride
banjo
GOSBTS
Money sometimes brings the worst out in people. 
Lenny Rider
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As you say very sad and quite ironic, what Capt Tom originally did was everything that was good about this country and then what his family did typified the greed is good mentality.
Badger Boy
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This sort of story was massively inevitable. Money corrupts when you have done nothing to earn it.
Can you prove that? For £1 million quid (up front) I will prove you wrong!
portlock seagull
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It’s hard to understand why the charity needs a swimming pool and spa.Outrage as Captain Tom's daughter 'uses charity's name' to build spa and pool
The family have been under investigation by the Charity Commission since last year.
The daughter and her husband, must demolish their new swimming pool complex. She built it partly for the needs of Tom's charitable foundation, of course.
Is there any suggestion money from the charity has been spent out of all the donations towards the building as well? Or is that the inquiry investigation? Sorry, not up to speed on this story. BBCs most read tonight!
banjo
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I don’t think the trust knew anything about it. They claim the space was ‘urgently required’ for presentations and memorabilia.
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portlock seagull
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Massages (spa) and entertainment (pool) too?
That’s a bit of a stretch but sure planning permissions been granted for way more controversial applications. I’m not sure the pile in is deserved so far. Outcome of the inquiry is the bit to reserve judgement for
clapham_gull
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Bit of an odd story open to interpretation. Some reports the say the building wasn't completed, some say contains a spa.
Appear to have used the charities name on the planning application. Well not the actual application, but supporting documents.
No allegation of using the charities money, but then built something else, applied retrospectively (giving the details of what was actually built) and now told to demolish it.
Which is subject to appeal.
Charities trustees rightly pissed off and now not taking donations.
Why bother ? They just wasted thousands of pounds.
Just read another report that says they built the "original" building as per plan under the name of the charity, but then extended it (under their own names) and retrospective planning has been denied.
Neighbours dobbed them in of course
Parish Council notes from last year.
Appear to have used the charities name on the planning application. Well not the actual application, but supporting documents.
No allegation of using the charities money, but then built something else, applied retrospectively (giving the details of what was actually built) and now told to demolish it.
Which is subject to appeal.
Charities trustees rightly pissed off and now not taking donations.
Why bother ? They just wasted thousands of pounds.
Just read another report that says they built the "original" building as per plan under the name of the charity, but then extended it (under their own names) and retrospective planning has been denied.
Neighbours dobbed them in of course
Parish Council notes from last year.
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It’s what Captain Tom would have wantedOutrage as Captain Tom's daughter 'uses charity's name' to build spa and pool
The family have been under investigation by the Charity Commission since last year.
The daughter and her husband, must demolish their new swimming pool complex. She built it partly for the needs of Tom's charitable foundation, of course.
AIT76
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He walked so Hannah could float
Icy Gull
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I have bought quite a few car magazines over the years and I have noticed that many “owners cars” are CEOs of charities. Nearly always supercars too.
Makes me very suspicious and reluctant to donate because of it. The salaries some of these CEOs take is nothing short of scandalous imo when you consider they are supposed to be charities.
This one smells the same to me
Makes me very suspicious and reluctant to donate because of it. The salaries some of these CEOs take is nothing short of scandalous imo when you consider they are supposed to be charities.
This one smells the same to me
Weststander
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I have bought quite a few car magazines over the years and I have noticed that many “owners cars” are CEOs of charities. Nearly always supercars too.
Makes me very suspicious and reluctant to donate because of it. The salaries some of these CEOs take is nothing short of scandalous imo when you consider they are supposed to be charities.
This one smells the same to me
It’s not just the CEO’s. I know someone who works for a registered charity, below Board/management level, on £100k.
fly high
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Chap who serviced the air conditioning system at the office also did the cat protection league's head office on Ashdown Forest. He said the car park was full of top of the range, very expensive cars.I have bought quite a few car magazines over the years and I have noticed that many “owners cars” are CEOs of charities. Nearly always supercars too.
Makes me very suspicious and reluctant to donate because of it. The salaries some of these CEOs take is nothing short of scandalous imo when you consider they are supposed to be charities.
This one smells the same to me