[TV] Captain Sir Tom Moore - *Died 2 Feb 2021*

[amexer]

Not a new story they were challenged it about in their interview and I presume as the books were released before the death of Tom Moore, he possibly agreed to it.

Nothing takes way from the fact that i would guess 90% plus of people that purchased the books would have thought they were contributing to his charity. Nobody would have boughht the book if he was not known as a fundraiser. And as for charging £18k for presenting awards in his name

 

[clapham_gull]

Nothing takes way from the fact that i would guess 90% plus of people that purchased the books would have thought they were contributing to his charity. Nobody would have boughht the book if he was not known as a fundraiser. And as for charging £18k for presenting awards in his name

I totally agree. My question is whether the old boy knew what was going on whilst alive.

 

[dazzer6666]

That's what I was thinking.

I'm not sure I agree with all this 'blurring the lines' business. Either she did something illegal or not. There is a difference between diverting funds to profit from something, and profiting on the back of something (monetizing one's cachet, in effect).

If she hasn't done anything illegal then it boils down to the equivalent of, for example, accepting a fee to open a charity fund run. We would normally expect a celeb to waive the fee for a charity fund raiser.

The family benefitted by more than £1 million from Tom's book deal. The question is whether Tom intended that money to go to his charity or not. Having read the piece I am none the wiser.

If she has done something illegal this needs to be made clear and not conflated with her additional personal characteristics, no matter how odious. You don't go to jail for being a shit (more's the pity, perhaps).

The CC report and most subsequent news reporting of it is very clear that there was no criminal offence. The publishers/agents have been equally clear that the family promised money to the foundation from the book.

Crooks ? Nah
****s ? Probably

 

[Brovion]

I got the impression that he had always been a pawn for his family - it always made me wonder if it was them persuading Tom to do this in the first place and see what they could get out of it. Attention seeking weirdos.
Shame for the old soldier and shame on them. Hopefully the charity will take them to court over this and they will end up worse off than they started.

Yeah. I didn't think that at first, but certainly after he died I wondered how much he was being pushed by his family after they realised what a big deal it was, and also how aware he was of it all. Certainly whenever I hear his name crop up now I feel sad more than anything.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

More was only in the army for six years from 1940 to 1946, so why everyone still called him "Captain" over sixty years after he was demobilised is another mystery.

He mostly sold concrete pipes and roofing materials as a career.

Captain Tom Moore - Wikipedia

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[Is it PotG?]

More was only in the army for six years from 1940 to 1946, so why everyone still called him "Captain" over sixty years after he was demobiised is another mystery.

He mostly sold concrete pipes and roofing materials as a career.

Captain Tom Moore - Wikipedia

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A high profile person with a moody CV.

Can't happen Shirley?

 

[The Clamp]

More was only in the army for six years from 1940 to 1946, so why everyone still called him "Captain" over sixty years after he was demobilised is another mystery.

He mostly sold concrete pipes and roofing materials as a career.

Captain Tom Moore - Wikipedia

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While I largely agree with your sentiment, 1940-1946 were quite significant years for the British Army.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

While I largely agree with your sentiment, 1940-1946 were quite significant years for the British Army.

Really? How so?

 

[The Clamp]

Really? How so?

We changed from using the laced gator to the wrap around puttie.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

We changed from using the laced gator to the wrap around puttie.

I can see how such a change would be traumatic for a man of Captain Tom's age.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

More was only in the army for six years from 1940 to 1946, so why everyone still called him "Captain" over sixty years after he was demobilised is another mystery.

He mostly sold concrete pipes and roofing materials as a career.

Captain Tom Moore - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A captain in the army is only the second rank, unlike the RN or RAF. it isn’t a retained title until Major is attained.
It was the tabloids who ‘promoted’ it.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

A captain in the army is only the second rank, unlike the RN or RAF. it isn’t a retained title until Major is attained.
It was the tabloids who ‘promoted’ it.

There's a bit in Boy by Roald Dahl where he writes about having a teacher who went by Captain [whatshisface], and all the boys found it odd because it wasn't a particularly impressive rank to begin with.

It's been a while (i.e. about 20years) since I read it, but given the general tone of that book I assume the teacher in question unjustly canes him at some point.

 

[jcdenton08]

A captain in the army is only the second rank, unlike the RN or RAF. it isn’t a retained title until Major is attained.
It was the tabloids who ‘promoted’ it.

It was just a nice feel good story for the media to push in a world of constant doom and gloom. Could do with similar right now, really.

 

[Brovion]

It was just a nice feel good story for the media to push in a world of constant doom and gloom. Could do with similar right now, really.

Indeed. It was a worrying time and all most of us could do was stand uselessly in our doorways and clap the NHS; so it was undoubtedly a feelgood story at a time when we badly needed one. It has now been irredeemably tainted which I do think is very sad.

 

[Grassman]

It was just a nice feel good story for the media to push in a world of constant doom and gloom. Could do with similar right now, really.

Captain Rachel Reeves was the first woman to……

 

[Professor Plum]

I got the impression that he had always been a pawn for his family - it always made me wonder if it was them persuading Tom to do this in the first place and see what they could get out of it. Attention seeking weirdos.
Shame for the old soldier and shame on them. Hopefully the charity will take them to court over this and they will end up worse off than they started.

I don’t think so. Like many things in modern life, with social media something starts off as a quaint little story on Facebook or whatever then snowballs. I’ve no reason to think they planned all this. I suspect it just got too big for them and they didn’t have the strength of character to control it, or themselves. Where most people I hope would have handed over the operation once it got big, they saw the opportunities. i dont like these people but I honestly don’t think it was all planned in advance.

 

[amexer]

There justification seems to be Tom said he wanted them to have the money from book sales Not hard to tell a 98 y o that that is not pssible because people buying book will assume the proceeds are going to charity. You can count me as one because i bought the book for my uncle

 

[Cheshire Cat]

The preface to his autobiography (Kindle edition) says this....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tomorrow-Will-Good-Day-Autobiography/dp/0241486106/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2OQ6EZ6F5RV27&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.I5VQGvqkwN_W5bwiR-y3YVxXQPFFAjGbBgjNl7S1dzR0xAe0HKs-TbTm53sKZG8U64jsGpzkFRxo45Ei5_VwNmuUK_NUlxsvPw-o2evrVv_3sAXz0j_YSGzt8S7_Awm4qIJBMmqlHzaKCMxEPeoGI8jEpbVPwBDmou4f5l5-YKDKCM3980EZVfvc2bqDIzmkyeOC0ktrbACAt3k78Hp3uAF7-SbtN0ZoThX6Z_FQZh0._VMrEDmrpn3OlhBxpwjy3X67LplI25EzYByFkQnbSRY&dib_tag=se&keywords=captain+tom+moore+book&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1732299701&sprefix=tom+moore%2Caps%2C137&sr=8-4&asin=B088LRT44W&revisionId=393235a9&format=3&depth=2