[Albion] Can you have your own style of play with bottom 6 players?

[Weststander]

It would be nice to properly discuss our football unfortunately the majority on here seem incapable without throwing insults. The style of play is one thing the obvious lack of motivation is another and probably standing out as the most concerning. We have a few players giving 100% yet there a few that aren’t anywhere near.

Every Albion team I’ve seen promoted have had something special about it, gone have the pre match huddles, gone when he was playing Maty Ryan steaming up the pitch to celebrate a goal with his team mates. Somethings missing and it’s costing us. I don’t even think this squad believes they can win another game they didn’t even look that disappointed when the equaliser went in almost as it was expected to happen at some point.

Potter can coach tactics all he wants although until he gets unity back in the squad we aren’t going anywhere fast and in for a proper bumpy ride.

Other than a probably unhappy Ryan, which players aren’t trying 100% and are at odds with other parts of the squad?

 

[banjo]

In the words of Eric Morecambe. We’re playing all the right football, but not necessarily in the right way.

 

[BadFish]

It would be nice to properly discuss our football unfortunately the majority on here seem incapable without throwing insults. The style of play is one thing the obvious lack of motivation is another and probably standing out as the most concerning. We have a few players giving 100% yet there a few that aren’t anywhere near.

Every Albion team I’ve seen promoted have had something special about it, gone have the pre match huddles, gone when he was playing Maty Ryan steaming up the pitch to celebrate a goal with his team mates. Somethings missing and it’s costing us. I don’t even think this squad believes they can win another game they didn’t even look that disappointed when the equaliser went in almost as it was expected to happen at some point.

Potter can coach tactics all he wants although until he gets unity back in the squad we aren’t going anywhere fast and in for a proper bumpy ride.

I am always wary of suggestions that players aren't motivated (or lack passion). I am not sure how this can be measured in the pitch and therefore how someone can tell this.

Not something I've noticed to be honest. Could you point to the players who you think are not motivated and the behaviors or stats that you believe are measures to demonstrate this?

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[Justice]

Other than a probably unhappy Ryan, which players aren’t trying 100% and are at odds with other parts of the squad?

You only had to watch the game to notice certain players aren’t exactly busting a gut to try and make things happen. The last equaliser was pathetic not one of them wanted to get hurt trying to stop that ball going in the net all to easy.

Sheffield Utd wanted that more than us last week you can blame missed chances individual mistakes but really in every game the same excuses I’m not buying it.

 

[El Presidente]

No, to me it would be like trading in your attractive, mysterious, but delicate missus for some hearty bird who was always willing to take one up the wrong 'un, but who smelt of minestrone and was more than happy to do the first while eating the seacond AND watch East Enders, all at the same time.

Versatility isn't everything.

I think we may have shared the same bird, though probably not at the same time, although if you asked her nicely...

 

[El Presidente]

Other than a probably unhappy Ryan, which players aren’t trying 100% and are at odds with other parts of the squad?

Probably Andone, but that’s not a huge loss.

 

[Weststander]

Probably Andone, but that’s not a huge loss.

What about the current schism in the squad? Quite clearly, half the squad are no longer trying until the divisive figure of GP is given his P45. Whilst the loyalists hate them with a passion.

Who are the dozen trouble makers?

 

[BadFish]

You only had to watch the game to notice certain players aren’t exactly busting a gut to try and make things happen. The last equaliser was pathetic not one of them wanted to get hurt trying to stop that ball going in the net all to easy.

Sheffield Utd wanted that more than us last week you can blame missed chances individual mistakes but really in every game the same excuses I’m not buying it.

The equaliser was disappointing but not a result of not trying enough. More a case of trying hard to do the wrong thing and not mark players in space. It looked to me that 3 defenders were all trying to do the same thing.

More down to a lack of organisation than a lack of effort. Something we need to work on.

If it matters so much and Sheffield United 'wanted it' that much more than us, then why didn't they win? Actually I think the problem with both this game and the Fulham game was that we allowed them to knock us off our game and stop us doing the things we do well in favour of a blood and thunder 'knock the ball up to the big man' style of play. This doesn't suit us no matter how much effort we put in.

We've got enough quality on the bench and competition for places to replace anyone that the coaching team believe are not giving their all.

I don't agree that our problems stem from a lack of effort.



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[Weststander]

The equaliser was disappointing but not a result of not trying enough. More a case of trying hard to do the wrong thing and not mark players in space. It looked to me that 3 defenders were all trying to do the same thing.

More down to a lack of organisation than a lack of effort. Something we need to work on.

If it matters so much and Sheffield United 'wanted it' that much more than us, then why didn't they win? Actually I think the problem with both this game and the Fulham game was that we allowed them to knock us off our game and stop us doing the things we do well in favour of a blood and thunder 'knock the ball up to the big man' style of play. This doesn't suit us no matter how much effort we put in.

We've got enough quality on the bench and competition for places to replace anyone that the coaching team believe are not giving their all.

I don't agree that our problems stem from a lack of effort.



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Fulham - my take was awful football from both teams in a nervy first 45, then second half we played them off the park. After a perceived ‘winning the CL’ with their draw against Liverpool, Fulham would’ve come away deflated about shite they were against fellow strugglers Brighton.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Perhaps [MENTION=31]El Presidente[/MENTION] can correct me
But I read somewhere that TB is the 18th richest billionaire in the PL, whilst Sheikh Mansour tops the chart as the richest.
If you have an up and coming starlet with a £??million price tag on their head and an cheaper alternative, it doesn't take genius to know who's going where.

 

[London Irish]

It still staggers me there are people on here who will accept we may get relegated but stand by Potter because we are not getting “outplayed”. I mean what definition of relegated includes not being outplayed by all but two teams, WTF is going on

 

[BadFish]

It still staggers me there are people on here who will accept we may get relegated but stand by Potter because we are not getting “outplayed”. I mean what definition of relegated includes not being outplayed by all but two teams, WTF is going on

We have a long term plan in place and I still think there is merit in that plan. The important thing is that people see that what the plan can offer if it comes to fruition. Many people think that is worth something . . . Including Tony Bloom (which is important).

At this stage I would need to see a more impressive alternate plan on order to support throwing the towel in.

I'm all honesty I am more putting my faith in Bloom, Ashworth and Barber than in Potter. I think they have all the information necessary to make this decision . . . We don't.

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[Mo Gosfield]

The equaliser was disappointing but not a result of not trying enough. More a case of trying hard to do the wrong thing and not mark players in space. It looked to me that 3 defenders were all trying to do the same thing.

More down to a lack of organisation than a lack of effort. Something we need to work on.

If it matters so much and Sheffield United 'wanted it' that much more than us, then why didn't they win? Actually I think the problem with both this game and the Fulham game was that we allowed them to knock us off our game and stop us doing the things we do well in favour of a blood and thunder 'knock the ball up to the big man' style of play. This doesn't suit us no matter how much effort we put in.

We've got enough quality on the bench and competition for places to replace anyone that the coaching team believe are not giving their all.

I don't agree that our problems stem from a lack of effort.


Neither do I.
This lack of organisation at the back has been there for a very long time. Surely it was obvious to the regime but nothing gets done about it. It can only indicate a lack of defensive coaching ability. When something isn't working, surely you try and change? It keeps costing us and it cost us three points today.

 

[vagabond]

Burnley have a style.

I'm getting bored with all this different ways of attacking Potter. If you turn the clock back two years, there were loads of posters, saying I'd rather the team got relegated than suffer this ultra defensive approach under CH. We want to see an attractive style of football. Well you've now got it, but it's still not good enough.

I'm starting to believe if we won every game 5-0 a lot of our fans would be moaning that we should have scored 8 every week.

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Well said.

 

[vagabond]

We have a long term plan in place and I still think there is merit in that plan. The important thing is that people see that what the plan can offer if it comes to fruition. Many people think that is worth something . . . Including Tony Bloom (which is important).

At this stage I would need to see a more impressive alternate plan on order to support throwing the towel in.

I'm all honesty I am more putting my faith in Bloom, Ashworth and Barber than in Potter. I think they have all the information necessary to make this decision . . . We don't.

Exactly.

No one wants to get relegated, but the club have spoken about this being a possibility. Because historically, nearly every promoted team is relegated eventually.

But if there’s genuine fundamental issues at the club, I have complete faith in Tony, Paul, Dan and GP to make the right calls.

Everyone needs to take a deep breath and keep the faith. Remember GP kept us up last season with a weaker squad.

 

[neilbard]

Neilbard OUT!!!

Blimey, I think your right, bloody football

 

[clockend1983]

Liverpool have just drawn against a team in the bottom three, 800-odd passes, 79% possession but just 2 shots on target to West Brom's 3. Even the best sides have off days. The difference is their strikers will score in the next match and they will be fine.

Potter's style is fine, but the strikers aren't good enough. I feel the defenders will sort themselves out eventually.

Remember, Leicester had bottom 6 players, but they added one or two and the rest is history.

What actually is Potters style,serious question because I can’t
work it out at all

 

[vagabond]

What actually is Potters style,serious question because I can’t
work it out at all

He doesn’t have “one style”.

But you haven’t noticed us dominating possession in most games though, seriously?

Compared to backs to the wall Hughton where we sat back, had no possession and no shots. Surely you can see that difference? Even if we’re not getting the results right now.

 

[clockend1983]

He doesn’t have “one style”.

But you haven’t noticed us dominating possession in most games though, seriously?

Compared to backs to the wall Hughton where we sat back, had no possession and no shots. Surely you can see that difference? Even if we’re not getting the results right now.

Is dominating possession a style of play?
But under Hughton we had more points