Cameron to help the Prudent at last a break for the less greedy...

[supaseagull]

Help the rich and leave the poor to fend for themselves. At last the caring Cameron nonsense is shown as nothing but a thin veneer.

Completely agree, old Diddy David's royally f*cked this one up.

Does the average voter in the marginal constituencies give a crap about savings that they don't have?

Same old Tories - always thinking of their rich friends as usual! :thud:

 

[twickers]

.........get this man in and soon!!
BBC NEWS | Politics | Cameron makes savings tax pledge

David Cameron...he reminds me of his namesake who played for us in 1999/2000. Indeed, what a complete and utter, useless c*ck David Cameron is. I heard him talk on Radio 4 this morning and yet say absolutely nothing, just repeating a load of conjecture using words like 'enabling' and how Labour were just about intervention. He had nothing tangible to say what he would do or could do differently, indeed he proclaimed addressing VAT as a waste of time and money and then spun his good will gesture to the pensioners (whoever these pensioners are with £20K+ savings are) in the afternoon.

Populist, opportunisit, contradictory gimmic. He's an arse. I have no particular penchant for Labour, indeed I would have thought Labour to be easy pray, but Cameron and his camp of babbling baffoons are unable to make anything of the open goal that has lay before them countless times.

 

[Notters]

You've pretty much described my situation perfectly there too DTES...

 

[e77]

I agree with the principal but remind people that the tax revenue will have to come from somewhere else.

 

[DJ Leon]

Untill you check the opinion polls and you find the reverse is true, that Brown is as electable as Michael foot.

I would re-check the opinion polls if I were you.

 

[Gonzo]

David Cameron...he reminds me of his namesake who played for us in 1999/2000. Indeed, what a complete and utter, useless c*ck David Cameron is. I heard him talk on Radio 4 this morning and yet say absolutely nothing, just repeating a load of conjecture using words like 'enabling' and how Labour were just about intervention. He had nothing tangible to say what he would do or could do differently, indeed he proclaimed addressing VAT as a waste of time and money and then spun his good will gesture to the pensioners (whoever these pensioners are with £20K+ savings are) in the afternoon.

Populist, opportunisit, contradictory gimmic. He's an arse. I have no particular penchant for Labour, indeed I would have thought Labour to be easy pray, but Cameron and his camp of babbling baffoons are unable to make anything of the open goal that has lay before them countless times.

Absolutely spot on

I still find it hard to fathom how people buy the shit that he so consistently spouts.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Absolutely spot on

I still find it hard to fathom how people buy the shit that he so consistently spouts.

Cameron the clown. When interest rates are heading to zero he says he will give us tax relief on the minute bit of interest savers will have gained. Whoopy whoop. He also preceded this by suggesting we're a nation of spenders i.e. not many people have any savings in the first place. Make your mind up.

 

[Gully]

I would re-check the opinion polls if I were you.

Exactly, considering that the World is heading into recession, who would you rather was in charge of trying to plot a way through it...someone who is experienced at fiscal management...or a bungling apprentice? Regardless of your opinions of the Brown/Capt Darling partnership it has to be better than Cameron and Cpl Clot!

 

[beorhthelm]

We are currently entering into a recession, and people are struggling. Which group does George Osbourne choose to help? The group that can afford to save. Is that really what he should be doing?

or, the group that have saved and are facing severly reduced incomes so they are struggling. why do these debates get painted in black and white?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Exactly, considering that the World is heading into recession, who would you rather was in charge of trying to plot a way through it...someone who is experienced at fiscal management...or a bungling apprentice? Regardless of your opinions of the Brown/Capt Darling partnership it has to be better than Cameron and Cpl Clot!

Going back to the tax cuts on savings. Most people would surely have put their savings into ISAs...which dont incur tax? How will this benefit ISA savers? Am I missing something here?

 

[Hatterlovesbrighton]

Cameron the clown. When interest rates are heading to zero he says he will give us tax relief on the minute bit of interest savers will have gained. Whoopy whoop. He also preceded this by suggesting we're a nation of spenders i.e. not many people have any savings in the first place. Make your mind up.

He says that the nation is a spending one so he wants to encourage people to save more, rather than spend more. He was being attacked as opposing the spend policy of Brown so the tories were always going to suggest something along these lines.

Everything that any Government does is only going to make small differences to the everyday person. It's just about the impression that you give

 

[Hatterlovesbrighton]

Exactly, considering that the World is heading into recession, who would you rather was in charge of trying to plot a way through it...someone who is experienced at fiscal management...or a bungling apprentice? Regardless of your opinions of the Brown/Capt Darling partnership it has to be better than Cameron and Cpl Clot!

Brown's financial management record is in tatters. He promised an end to boom and bust and was directly responsible for the 10p tax fiasco. Labour were sensible for a while, but when the going has got tough they abandoned sensible policies and went for spend spend spend. We'll get the tax tax tax soon enough.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

He says that the nation is a spending one so he wants to encourage people to save more, rather than spend more. He was being attacked as opposing the spend policy of Brown so the tories were always going to suggest something along these lines.

Everything that any Government does is only going to make small differences to the everyday person. It's just about the impression that you give

This is debatable. Whilst I appreciate the BoE is independent Brown did preside over the internationally coordinated initial 2% drop the BoE made. This affected a lot of people and significantly as well.

 

[Buzzer]

Exactly, considering that the World is heading into recession, who would you rather was in charge of trying to plot a way through it...someone who is experienced at fiscal management...or a bungling apprentice? Regardless of your opinions of the Brown/Capt Darling partnership it has to be better than Cameron and Cpl Clot!

f*** me. I've read some crap on this site over the last few years. God knows I've typed some of it but that beats anything even HB&B or 1066Gull have ever posted.

It's a joke, right?

 

[Gully]

f*** me. I've read some crap on this site over the last few years. God knows I've typed some of it but that beats anything even HB&B or 1066Gull have ever posted.

It's a joke, right?

It was intended to be somewhat humorous, possibly even flippant, so in that respect you are spot on with your assessment...but, there is nothing that I have seen from Cameron and his sidekick that gives me any confidence in them whatsoever.

 

[Gully]

Brown's financial management record is in tatters. He promised an end to boom and bust and was directly responsible for the 10p tax fiasco. Labour were sensible for a while, but when the going has got tough they abandoned sensible policies and went for spend spend spend. We'll get the tax tax tax soon enough.

...many economists advocate the spend, spend, spend approach of getting through a recession...the cost of not doing so can be lost jobs, which cost dearly in benefit payments, thus raising taxes for those who remain in work.

 

[Buzzer]

It was intended to be somewhat humorous, so in that respect you are spot on with your assessment...but, there is nothing that I have seen from Cameron and his sidekick that gives me any confidence in them whatsoever.

So what gives you confidence in Brown? Where has he exercised fiscal management that has filled you with all the hope of a 5 year old on Christmas Eve?

Was it selling off our gold at rock bottom prices? Was it plunging us into the biggest debt in UK history? Was it his promise of the end to boom and bust which he reneged on? Was it that every time he and Darling make a prediction of UK output/economy growth/borrowing that they spectacularly miscalculate with wild overoptimism.

Jesus wept, you people and your blind faith in that cocksucker Brown or your blind hatred of the Tories (let me paraphrase...Tories don't care, Tories don't look after anyone but the rich, Tories rape children....) just leave me gobsmacked.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Brown has f***ed up spectacularly because he is not up to the job. It's time for him to go.

 

[Buzzer]

...many economists advocate the spend, spend, spend approach of getting through a recession...the cost of not doing so can be lost jobs, which cost dearly in benefit payments, thus raising taxes for those who remain in work.

Yes and they have consitently been proven wrong. Can I refer you to this thread...

https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/showthread.php?t=138689&highlight=callaghan

 

[Gully]

Buzzer, were you trying to buy your first house in the late 80's or early 90's on a public sector wage...during the time that interest rates shot up to 15% in the space of two days...were you trying to find a job in the mid 80's when unemployment was pushing 4 million because we had a government that deemed high unemployment to be acceptable...I could go on...losing my job as a milk monitor at primary school when the milk snatcher stopped free milk, etc, etc...so forgive me if I am less than enthusiastic at the prospect of the Tories running the economy again.

 

[Buzzer]

Buzzer, were you trying to buy your first house in the late 80's or early 90's on a public sector wage...during the time that interest rates shot up to 15% in the space of two days...were you trying to find a job in the mid 80's when unemployment was pushing 4 million because we had a government that deemed high unemployment to be acceptable...I could go on...losing my job as a milk monitor at primary school when the milk snatcher stopped free milk, etc, etc...so forgive me if I am less than enthusiastic at the prospect of the Tories running the economy again.

So Labour is allowed to change but the Tories aren't? Are you really citing a change in the law in the early 70s for a reason not to vote for a party in the 21st century? That's some grudge. Of course, silly me. It's not a grudge. The tories don't care, have never cared, will never care. Sod the fact that this government has made pensions worthless. That it has encouraged people into debt they can't service. All within the lifetime of this government. We'll forgive them that because the opposition did something unpopular with milk over 30 years ago.

And yes, I did buy a house on a wage LOWER than a public sector wage in the early 90s with a work colleague. Thanks for asking.