Cameron the clueless

[Biscuit]

what is a debt? I buy something ergo I pay for it. If I haven't got it, i save up until i have

And here we have it.

The global* economic debt crisis wasn't helped by the average Joe living beyond his or her means, but it was created and fuelled by the greed of the banks in the square mile. The ones gave average Joe his or her credit cards in the first place.

*not entirely the Labour Government fault

 

[Don Quixote]

I've been very impressed with Cameron's speech so far. "I promise under my government we will never join the Euro" Whatever other people think of him, at least he's trying his hardest to getting us out of the mess Labour created. Decent Prime Minister.

Woah! How can he promise that? Seriously though, that isn't an important point. It is obvious we are never going to join the Euro.

 

[Mr Burns]

And a big special thankyou for allowing companies to now fire people up to 2 years into a job without any justification whatsoever. Thats really going to help people feel more secure isnt? What a scum party the Tories really are.

Oh dear! Not the brighest star in the sky.

This has been going on for years before the Tories got in.

Maybe we should thank the tories for selling a large chunk of our gold reserves for rock bottom prices as well. While we're at it, blame them for changing the rules, so that the banks could lend out of control and put us in this shit. What else can we blame them for

 

[Meade's Ball]

I see a number of the "crowd" not clapping Cameron's endorsement for gay marriage.

 

[Billy the Fish]

And here we have it.

The global* economic debt crisis wasn't helped by the average Joe living beyond his or her means, but it was created and fuelled by the greed of the banks in the square mile. The ones gave average Joe his or her credit cards in the first place.

*not entirely the Labour Government fault

It wasn't labours fault at all, and the tories can do nothing to fix it. If I've observed anything about the world of finance over the last couple of yares it's that every government in the world is a puppet to a banking system which nobody understands or can control, and is destined to periodically meltdown. Lovely.

My main gripe with labour is their ridiculous third term spending spree and over growth of the public sector. If they'd kept a tighter ship the cuts now wouldn't appear so deep.


As for Cameron, I don't see what is so bad. Live sensibly within your means? Doesn't seem like such a bad idea.

 

[BLOCK F]

I think you massively missed my point.

And yes, there is social cleansing going on. So much of what the tories are doing is having the effect of forcing poor and middle income people out of central London. These attacks are not just on an underclass of perma-dole abusers but on working families, single poor people, pensioners and hard working unskilled people.

Poor will be driven out of London by benefit cuts, warns Labour MP | News

Hi Biscuit,I don't want to get into a long discussion,but plenty of people who would like to live in central London cannot afford to do so and haven't been able to for years.This includes people on good salaries able to take out mortgages.You have to live where you can afford.The point is that tax payers,with some justification, resent paying up to £1000 p.w. in housing benefits for people to live in housing they couldn't possibly afford if they were paying for themselves.Surely this money could be better spent elsewhere.
Me,I love living on the Sussex coast,but if you are asking,a little flat in say Knightsbridge,for the odd occasion the old bird and I vist London, would do nicely!!!!!!

 

[Notters]

I pay £200 a month on travel to work and back and this is going up, again. It has already gone up twice. It's getting to a point where I can't afford to live in Central London (thanks for the social cleansing Mr C) and I can't afford to live on the outskirts and commute in.

I work as a freelancer and work is very feast and famine. Not everyone who uses a train earns 35k plus and there are many, many people who earn even less than me - they can't afford to keep paying it. Eventually they'll just stay at home and who can blame them? The price rises of the rail disgust me. I can't help but think had the Tories not sold off the family silver under Thatcher my electricity bill wouldn't have jumped from £44pm to £66pm to £84pm and I'd be able to afford to get the train to work.[/Q

Get real Biscuit,you cannot blame Mr.Cameron for the fact that you can't afford to live in central London.Social cleansing,my arse!
In fact,except for the very top end of the London housing market........Russian oligarch territory etc.,I dare say house prices have fallen since Cameron came to power.

Nope, it's entirely Thatcher's fault.

 

[BLOCK F]

And here we have it.

The global* economic debt crisis wasn't helped by the average Joe living beyond his or her means, but it was created and fuelled by the greed of the banks in the square mile. The ones gave average Joe his or her credit cards in the first place.

*not entirely the Labour Government fault

No not entirely the Labour Governments fault,but who encouraged the boom built on unsustainable debt..........I seem to remember the name Brown somewhere,either as Chancellor or P.M.
No,hang on a minute,didn't he say no more boom and bust?!It can't be him,can it?

 

[ROSM]

My main gripe with labour is their ridiculous third term spending spree and over growth of the public sector. If they'd kept a tighter ship the cuts now wouldn't appear so deep.

would that be the spending plans that were backed by the Tory opposition? Would that also be the spending spree that brought the deficit as a percentage of GDP up to 42% which was still less than Blair inherited when he came to power in 1997 (it was 43% then)

Seriously whatever Government we had would have suffered in the same way as a result of the 2007 crash. This is clear given that governments of all hues globally are suffering now.

 

[BLOCK F]

Notters.......drivel.

 

[Albion Dan]

Oh dear! Not the brighest star in the sky.

This has been going on for years before the Tories got in.

Maybe we should thank the tories for selling a large chunk of our gold reserves for rock bottom prices as well. While we're at it, blame them for changing the rules, so that the banks could lend out of control and put us in this shit. What else can we blame them for

It is illegal to fire someone who has over a years employment on unfair grounds. Hence people are protected. I work for a major employer and have many staff myself. It is VERY difficult to get rid of people after they have proven they are capable by keeping a job for over 12 months.

Quite frankly the rest of your post is completely irrelavant to my point and the typical Tory fall back position about Gold. How long can that one be trotted out? The Tories have now had 1 1/2 years to improve things and they have got worse. They blame the Euro and Labour (How much longer can that carry on?) despite every economy struggling (Is that Labours fault too?), but under Labour our GDP was growing and now its up the creek.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

what is a debt? I buy something ergo I pay for it. If I haven't got it, i save up until i have

No mortgage then? Lucky man.

 

[Hunting 784561]

Glad to see someone's already blamed Thatcher.







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[BLOCK F]

After getting annoyed with his posh blather and the foully sour faces of all speech-onlookers i turned over to Countdown and was more moved by Anneka Rice's encouragement to help the poor or desperate in the community including the little old woman in the village who struggles carrying her shopping.

How touching!

 

[ROSM]

Glad to see someone's already blamed Thatcher.

It's accepted wisdom that anything in society/industry that happens today can easily be blamed on decisions taken 20 years ago. Significant academics have written on it. Only they probably blamed Wilson

 

[Westdene Seagull]

its a bit of a tangent from the topic, but since your here i'll point out our electricity prices keep going up to pay for subsidising green alternatives. UK electric prices are inline with european prices, cheaper than Germany or Holland, but more than France.

The OFT suspects something far more sinister ..... and they may well be right.

 

[Biscuit]

Nope, it's entirely Thatcher's fault.

Where did I say that, mate?

 

[Hunting 784561]

It's accepted wisdom that anything in society/industry that happens today can easily be blamed on decisions taken 20 years ago. Significant academics have written on it. Only they probably blamed Wilson

Oh goody.

So only another few years to go before we can blame Blair for everything.

Oh, hang on...

 

[Biscuit]

Oh goody.

So only another few years to go before we can blame Blair for everything.

Oh, hang on...

that made me laugh.

 

[Silent Bob]

Was just thinking the same thing.

It's the equivalent of Kenny Daglish joining Liverpool and announcing that he promises his team will not lose 78-0 to Everton in any game in the next 3 seasons.

yes

I suppose he's trying to throw a bone to the even more right wing elements who aren't happy that he hasn't left the EU, abolished the minimum wage, and brought back hanging. But surely even thy're not nutty enough to think there's any prospect of us actually joining the Euro in the near to mid future? Under any party.

its a bit of a tangent from the topic, but since your here i'll point out our electricity prices keep going up to pay for subsidising green alternatives. UK electric prices are inline with european prices, cheaper than Germany or Holland, but more than France.

What about the average wage or pension?