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Cameron the clueless



BLOCK F

Well-known member
Feb 26, 2009
6,723
I pay £200 a month on travel to work and back and this is going up, again. It has already gone up twice. It's getting to a point where I can't afford to live in Central London (thanks for the social cleansing Mr C) and I can't afford to live on the outskirts and commute in.

I work as a freelancer and work is very feast and famine. Not everyone who uses a train earns 35k plus and there are many, many people who earn even less than me - they can't afford to keep paying it. Eventually they'll just stay at home and who can blame them? The price rises of the rail disgust me. I can't help but think had the Tories not sold off the family silver under Thatcher my electricity bill wouldn't have jumped from £44pm to £66pm to £84pm and I'd be able to afford to get the train to work.[/Q

Get real Biscuit,you cannot blame Mr.Cameron for the fact that you can't afford to live in central London.Social cleansing,my arse!
In fact,except for the very top end of the London housing market........Russian oligarch territory etc.,I dare say house prices have fallen since Cameron came to power.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,358
We need people spending to get the economy moving again - paying off debts is the last thing the economy needs right now.

I'd suggest that the vast majority of people got so badly scarred by the credit crunch that they are now looking to pay off high levels of personal debt whenever and wherever they can so that they never again give their bank/building society the opportunity to get them by the balls. The wider economy can do one.
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,324
Living In a Box
I'd suggest that the vast majority of people got so badly scarred by the credit crunch that they are now looking to pay off high levels of personal debt whenever and wherever they can so that they never again give their bank/building society the opportunity to get them by the balls. The wider economy can do one.

I think the stats show this is correct as I am sure I read somewhere we pay more off cards a month than spend
 


Durlston

"You plonker, Rodney!"
Jul 15, 2009
10,017
Haywards Heath
I've been very impressed with Cameron's speech so far. "I promise under my government we will never join the Euro" :clap2: Whatever other people think of him, at least he's trying his hardest to getting us out of the mess Labour created. Decent Prime Minister.
 








Biscuit

Native Creative
Jul 8, 2003
22,322
Brighton
Get real Biscuit,you cannot blame Mr.Cameron for the fact that you can't afford to live in central London.Social cleansing,my arse!
In fact,except for the very top end of the London housing market........Russian oligarch territory etc.,I dare say house prices have fallen since Cameron came to power.

I think you massively missed my point.

And yes, there is social cleansing going on. So much of what the tories are doing is having the effect of forcing poor and middle income people out of central London. These attacks are not just on an underclass of perma-dole abusers but on working families, single poor people, pensioners and hard working unskilled people.

Poor will be driven out of London by benefit cuts, warns Labour MP | News
 
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catfish

North Stand Brighton Boy
Dec 17, 2010
7,677
Worthing
It's just the sort of thing you'd expect from the Bullingdon Berk.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,023
...my electricity bill wouldn't have jumped from £44pm to £66pm to £84pm and I'd be able to afford to get the train to work.

its a bit of a tangent from the topic, but since your here i'll point out our electricity prices keep going up to pay for subsidising green alternatives. UK electric prices are inline with european prices, cheaper than Germany or Holland, but more than France.
 


Meade's Ball

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
13,653
Hither (sometimes Thither)
After getting annoyed with his posh blather and the foully sour faces of all speech-onlookers i turned over to Countdown and was more moved by Anneka Rice's encouragement to help the poor or desperate in the community including the little old woman in the village who struggles carrying her shopping.
 


Storer 68

New member
Apr 19, 2011
2,827
what is a debt??????? I buy something ergo I pay for it. If I haven't got it, i save up until i have
 






Biscuit

Native Creative
Jul 8, 2003
22,322
Brighton
its a bit of a tangent from the topic, but since your here i'll point out our electricity prices keep going up to pay for subsidising green alternatives. UK electric prices are inline with european prices, cheaper than Germany or Holland, but more than France.

I've no doubt that's true but I'm not happy about my bill doubling within twelve months. That really bloody hurts. It's difficult enough to budget and live to my means with these kinds of price hikes. Until my employers decide to randomly double what they are paying me it's going to continue to be difficult. I appreciate however that you are arguing from facts whereas I have nothing more than my pathetic emotional outpourings.
 


Storer 68

New member
Apr 19, 2011
2,827
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Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,200
Goldstone
I think the stats show this is correct as I am sure I read somewhere we pay more off cards a month than spend
That sounds promising unless the payments include interest payments, which means our card debt could still be increasing.
 


Storer 68

New member
Apr 19, 2011
2,827


Storer 68

New member
Apr 19, 2011
2,827
I've been very impressed with Cameron's speech so far. "I promise under my government we will never join the Euro" :clap2: Whatever other people think of him, at least he's trying his hardest to getting us out of the mess Labour created. Decent Prime Minister.

err .............. that's just continuing the policy of the last Labour government
 


Biscuit

Native Creative
Jul 8, 2003
22,322
Brighton
Has he just sold all our gold for a record low price?

No but a former tory adminstration sold of all the family silver (ie council housing, the rail network and the utilities). The 'market forces' that were going to drive down the end cost to the consumer really worked there didn't they. We can constantly find examples where the tories/labour should have done better in the past, let's stick to the issue in hand.
 






Storer 68

New member
Apr 19, 2011
2,827
I've been very impressed with Cameron's speech so far. "I promise under my government we will never join the Euro" :clap2: Whatever other people think of him, at least he's trying his hardest to getting us out of the mess Labour created. Decent Prime Minister.

except that it's not HIS government it's OUR government!
 


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