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Butterfly in Mid November???



jimmygull

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Mar 22, 2012
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Just seen a Red Admiral fluttering around our garden in Hove, surely this is not normal? And whilst I think about it, our apple tree still has most of it's leaves, what's going on????
 




Giraffe

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Dunno. Its almost like it's a little warmer than it used to be in the old days. Someone should find out what is going.....
 


jimmygull

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Dunno. Its almost like it's a little warmer than it used to be in the old days. Someone should find out what is going.....

Fair enough, I'm well aware of global warming thank you. Just thought seeing a butterfly fluttering around in the garden a month or so before Christmas seemed particularly odd, oh well...
 


spence

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Last year i saw a grass snake in Dec. Couldn't believe it
 


The Clamp

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2016 is set to be declared the warmest year in recorded history, say boffins.

I saw bees trying to collect pollen in vain in January, I saw the great Cormorant arrive on the Adur two weeks before his mate as he cried out for her and stared into the distance, feathers ruffled, I saw a starship on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
 




Giraffe

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Fair enough, I'm well aware of global warming thank you. Just thought seeing a butterfly fluttering around in the garden a month or so before Christmas seemed particularly odd, oh well...

Sorry, I was being flippant. You are spot on though it is weird, but has happened for a few winters now. Traditionally though winter doesn't really start until 21st December, I think people have forgotten that a little bit. The old seasons have become blurred and November has always been quite warm really.

I have a host of ladybirds on my window as I type this. That barely seems normal either.
 


jimmygull

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Sorry, I was being flippant. You are spot on though it is weird, but has happened for a few winters now. Traditionally though winter doesn't really start until 21st December, I think people have forgotten that a little bit. The old seasons have become blurred and November has always been quite warm really.

I have a host of ladybirds on my window as I type this. That barely seems normal either.

No worries, it's made me realise that I dont really understand how butterflies work. As thought the recent cold snap with frost would have killed them all off. So is this one in the garden a recent arrival that should have probably made an appearance next Spring rather than now? Going to educate myself on google later! Either way shows just how quickly things are warming up in my mind:down:
 






Carrot Cruncher

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15c here in Southampton. That seems ridiculous for mid November. I cycled to work in a t-shirt as it was too warm for a coat.
 


Uncle Spielberg

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This is normal now, last years December we had many days in the 60s and 5 days warmer than days in June this year, the night temperatures were also much warmer than June and July. Today it will reach mid 60s and a minimum tonight of 55. This is going to be another very mild winter with no frost and no snow at all
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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This is going to be another very mild winter with no frost and no snow at all

Cheers for the timely reminder to get down to Mountain Warehouse [MENTION=3887]Uncle Spielberg[/MENTION] :thumbsup:

Snow.jpg
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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we'll its global warming. even though the models for warming predict it will get hotter in the summer, colder in the winter and more volatile all round, a mild summer and mild autumn will be attributed to the same cause.
 


Cheeky Monkey

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Just seen a Red Admiral fluttering around our garden in Hove, surely this is not normal? And whilst I think about it, our apple tree still has most of it's leaves, what's going on????

Hmm I'm not convinced. You sure it wasn't a Painted Lady?
 


Two Professors

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WWW/HDS,Med climate (from my Geography 'O' level GCE from 50 years ago!).Warm,wet,winter/hot,dry,summer.We will have loads of Icelandic pensioners moving here soon!
 






Cheeky Monkey

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Having googled, I concede you may well be right, it didn't hand around long! Red admirals not as common round these parts I take it?

I was being facetious :). Butterflies of any description at this time of year is something. That said, the two are often confused.
 


whitelion

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Dec 16, 2003
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WWW/HDS,Med climate (from my Geography 'O' level GCE from 50 years ago!).Warm,wet,winter/hot,dry,summer.We will have loads of Icelandic pensioners moving here soon!

It was "warm wet westerly winds in winter" in my geography lessons around the same time.
 


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Just seen a Red Admiral fluttering around our garden in Hove, surely this is not normal? And whilst I think about it, our apple tree still has most of it's leaves, what's going on????

Don't be concerned. It will not harm you. It's only me pursuing something I'm not sure of.
 




Stat Brother

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If recent history is anything to go by the sequence will be something like:-

warm
mild
Christmas
mild
Fookin freezing - 3 days max
seriously windy
mild
Summer.
 




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