[Misc] Bully XL’s

[The Clamp]

Should they be banned?

Irrelevance.

They already are. They are a pit bull breed and should not be owned by anyone.

At the very least they should have a muzzling order on them.

I have no idea why anyone other than a criminal moron would want to own such an ugly, dangerous, monster. Let alone have it in the house.

I’d like to see the breed wiped out.

What say you?

 

[sydney]

whatever.

 

[Icy Gull]

I have just had the time this morning to read through the whole thread. Abit of a cesspit for judgemental, political points scoring.

I’m not ashamed to say I am an XL Bully owner. She’s 18 months old. She’s my pride and joy, we walk 3+ hours a day, she socialises with other dogs regularly. In public spaces I always have her on an extendable lead, not through any of my own worries, but I am able to understand the reputation the breed now has, and how others may perceive her.

The thought of looking her in the eyes today and knowing she may be killed, having to take a family member away, it’s absolutely heartbreaking. She’s in amazing hands, amazing care and has a brilliant life that this breed needs. Not sat in a flat all day with no exercise etc. Just loved as a dog should be and she gives us that back and more. They are often used for attention on social media as suggested above, I do agree with that judgement. I do have social media, but my use of it is quite sparse, only really using Twitter (X) for Albion news, and the odd scroll of instagram to see what friends and family are up to. She’s certainly not plastered over any platform I can get her on.

Before her I had a male Staff, and before my staff I had an Alsatian, people said the same about both of these dogs and they were the best family dogs I have had.

For all of the reasons outlined above my opinion is that these dogs should be licensed. I’m not entirely sure what that looks like, whether that be home visits (multiple before a decision is made), whether you have to meet certain criteria, I’m not sure. But I couldn’t read this thread and not contribute as an owner, risking the judgement of you guys.

More than happy to answer any sensible questions etc you may have about what it’s like to own this breed. Thanks.

I have a question, why have you persisted in choosing dogs that are perceived as potentially aggressive and are pretty uncontrollable if the red mist comes down?

Not being judgemental, you may be an excellent owner with well trained and obedient dogs, just curious as to your choice of dogs.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Hopefully have helped to understand this more above.

Just a couple of questions from me. Do you ever have children in your house ? (and if so, how old).

If so, are they ever in the same room as the dog when you aren't in the room ?

Thanks

 

[Hamilton]

Very contradictory.

‘This owner has been spoken to twice by police about his dogs’

So put them on license and seize dogs from those without one?

They are all unpredictable. And this unpredictability results in serious harm. Cull them.

 

[sydney]

I have a question, why have you persisted in choosing dogs that are perceived as potentially aggressive and are pretty uncontrollable if the red mist comes down?

Not being judgemental, you may be an excellent owner with well trained and obedient dogs, just curious as to your choice of dogs

If people continue to be allowed to have these (potential) killing machines, unmuzzled, in public, even on a lead, then I should be afforded the allowance of carrying a machete/handgun in order to protect myself, should I be attacked by one of these monstrosities.
I say this slightly tongue in cheek, but I regard them as a dangerous weapon, and they should not be out in public.
It really says a lot about a person who chooses to have a beast like this, over the many hundreds of smaller, equally 'lovable' breeds.

my goodness...do you have dogs ..??

 

[birthofanorange]

my goodness...do you have dogs ..??

Nope, but I have had one in the past.
Why are you so into being 'protected' by one of these beasts? What are you afraid of that you need protection? Are they taking the place of a gun, for you?

 

[Worried Man Blues]

A fair point, noted, and if that made other feel safer I will consider doing it, in fact I’ll have a look on Amazon tonight.

Most of the time we walk over the downs, it’s rare we bump into any others, only cows and sheep. Only usually at weekends or on family walks we will go to public parks etc. Again please let me emphasise that’s not due to being worried about her! My house backs onto the downs so it’s just a lot easier than getting her in the car etc, she’s pretty heavy after all.

Thanks for the suggestion, obviously with recent news and the hot topic this is, I genuinely am interested in what will help others not to worry if they see me with my puppy.

Only cows and sheep, two bullies killed 22 pregnant sheep in North Wale s recently, only sheep!

 

[Icy Gull]

my goodness...do you have dogs ..??

Yep, I have always had dogs. 5 Mongrels, 4 Greyhounds, New Zealand Collie, a Dalmatian, a Labrador and currently a Min Pin. Your point is?

 

[Worried Man Blues]

I have been wondering about self defence, seeing I haven't a clue how many dangerous dogs are out there, yes I have two dogs both small and would easily be killed by an aggressive dog. Has anyone advice on pepper sprays as guns and knives aren't really my style }

 

[birthofanorange]

I have been wondering about self defence, seeing I haven't a clue how many dangerous dogs are out there, yes I have two dogs both small and would easily be killed by an aggressive dog. Has anyone advice on pepper sprays as guns and knives aren't really my style }

Nope, best rely on whatever comes to hand, apparently. Perhaps an old burger box or a shoe....
That was my previous point (albeit made a 'little' in jest) - as an individual, I am not allowed to carry anything for self-defence (and tbh I have no wish to do so), yet these things are allowed on the streets/parks etc.
Where is the fairness in that?

 

[Chicken Run]

I have been wondering about self defence, seeing I haven't a clue how many dangerous dogs are out there, yes I have two dogs both small and would easily be killed by an aggressive dog. Has anyone advice on pepper sprays as guns and knives aren't really my style }

Just carry a can of de-icer and spray it in the eyes of the attacking dog, or so I’ve heard

 

[m20gull]

I have a question, why have you persisted in choosing dogs that are perceived as potentially aggressive and are pretty uncontrollable if the red mist comes down?

Not being judgemental, you may be an excellent owner with well trained and obedient dogs, just curious as to your choice of dogs.

Sometimes we don't choose rescues. We have four and only one of them is one that we looked for, the others came to us through circumstance.

 

[m20gull]

I have just had the time this morning to read through the whole thread. Abit of a cesspit for judgemental, political points scoring.

I’m not ashamed to say I am an XL Bully owner. She’s 18 months old. She’s my pride and joy, we walk 3+ hours a day, she socialises with other dogs regularly. In public spaces I always have her on an extendable lead, not through any of my own worries, but I am able to understand the reputation the breed now has, and how others may perceive her.

The thought of looking her in the eyes today and knowing she may be killed, having to take a family member away, it’s absolutely heartbreaking. She’s in amazing hands, amazing care and has a brilliant life that this breed needs. Not sat in a flat all day with no exercise etc. Just loved as a dog should be and she gives us that back and more. They are often used for attention on social media as suggested above, I do agree with that judgement. I do have social media, but my use of it is quite sparse, only really using Twitter (X) for Albion news, and the odd scroll of instagram to see what friends and family are up to. She’s certainly not plastered over any platform I can get her on.

Before her I had a male Staff, and before my staff I had an Alsatian, people said the same about both of these dogs and they were the best family dogs I have had.

For all of the reasons outlined above my opinion is that these dogs should be licensed. I’m not entirely sure what that looks like, whether that be home visits (multiple before a decision is made), whether you have to meet certain criteria, I’m not sure. But I couldn’t read this thread and not contribute as an owner, risking the judgement of you guys.

More than happy to answer any sensible questions etc you may have about what it’s like to own this breed. Thanks.

I would worry about the extendable lead. I won't use one as I'm concerned about the ability to hold the grip. Rather than it breaking the risk is it being pulled out of your hand.

 

[sydney]

Nope, but I have had one in the past.
Why are you so into being 'protected' by one of these beasts? What are you afraid of that you need protection? Are they taking the place of a gun, for you?

i've got 2 cats ......never had a dog cos im out all day and the mrs works nights so the poopy picking up would be a logistical nightmare ....cats come in at the sound of a bell ,.......i walk my elderly neighbours dog , staff Labrador cross ...his names Merv....chill ,out ffs.

 

[METALMICKY]

its not about the breed ......its the environment they are reared in and the love form the family .....i have k own 3 big boys mate ...sound as f*** and loyal ....that is the issue , they will protect the family or whoever they are with ...good breed , bad name..

Your language and tone says it all. And when you say " protect the family " exactly how? You don't come across as someone responsible enough and with the right attitude to own a potentially dangerous dog.

 

[Mr deez]

If I was to walk down the street with a pet tiger, I would be stopped no matter how many times I said 'but this tiger is really friendly'.

 

[sydney]

0 1 ta raa

 

[Hamilton]

Your language and tone says it all. And when you say " protect the family " exactly how? You don't come across as someone responsible enough and with the right attitude to own a potentially dangerous dog.

Clearly Sydney is not a responsible owner (all that ‘protect the family’ rubbish.)

But, the fact is that they could be with a responsible owner or an idiot - if they decide they are going to attack, then they are going to cause serious damage.

Let’s start by putting mandatory prison sentences in place for owners of dangerous dogs that attack people. And let’s start culling. Get rid of these unnecessary animals.

 

[The Fifth Column]

Bev you sound like a decent and responsible person and dog owner but only find yourself in possession of your Bully due to rescuing it, I take it ordinarily you wouldn't choose to own a dog of this breed? You are an outlier in terms of this debate and not really who the criticism and ire is being directed at.

 

[Milano]

It’s simple - STOP ‘humanising’ dogs. They are dogs. To an extent the big pet shops, vets and insurance companies are to blame for a lot of this nonsense. The statement from the UK chief vet today was pathetic.