[Football] BT Sport saying our atmoshere 'non existent'

[BN41Albion]

I have no comments on the atmosphere but I do wonder about this attitude. Turn it around: why is 11 guys on the pitch required to lift the 30 000 in the stands rather than vice versa? Why are some fans of some teams singing their hearts out even when the game or result is shite?

Tbh I dont think I've ever seen a higher percentage of fans saying "the team need to give me something to cheer about or I'll be quiet" rather than the more common "I want to help and support my team through thick and thin" mentality.

Why do you expect the players (usuaully mercenaries) to fight for you when if you're (many of you have watched Brighton alongside some of the last homo erectus) not going to fight for them?

Our home form has been so bad for so long it's sucked the life out of the place. We so seldom score or look like winning at home. As others have said, the atmosphere often starts well then it becomes a case of here we go again and frustration sets in. It would be/is the same at the vast majority of grounds in the same/similar circumstances, in this country at least. It'd be a lot more toxic at some other grounds in fact with the same home record over such a long period.

 

[Swansman]

Our home form has been so bad for so long it's sucked the life out of the place. We so seldom score or look like winning at home. As others have said, the atmosphere often starts well then it becomes a case of here we go again and frustration sets in. It would be/is the same at the vast majority of grounds in the same/similar circumstances, in this country at least. It'd be a lot more toxic at some other grounds in fact with the same home record over such a long period.

Obviously I understand the frustration, I feel some of it (but probably not the same extent) watching it from a distance as well... but it is a vicious cycle. Players get nervous and perhaps detached from the shirt when they know they might quite quickly get people against them (or not behind them), and the fans might respond to those emotions on the pitch and it may lead to a scenario where both players and fans are struggling to do "their part" in helping the team, so to speak. Sometimes it is also excarberated by one side or the other; for instance the boys really could have made a lot better out of that Newcastle home game, while on the other hand I dont think it helped anyone to boo them after the hard worked effort against Leeds.

But thats the way it is. How to turn it around? Everyone probably must give a little more, try a little harder. On and off the pitch. Yes I know - easy for me to say, but probably true nevertheless. Norwich on April 2 is going to be huge, a win there and the confidence levels will be better and it could be a nice finish to the season, a loss (or draw) and it looks... dark. Hopefully everyone will be at their best that day.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

There were a good few thousand scousers there - they were winning and not making noise either

Anfield atmosphere was shyte the other day for a home knockout champs league tie v inter. St James has been turgid for atmosphere for years - suddenly woken up now theyre on a good run. London clubs are a total mixed bag for atmosphere.

I've been to a lot of gigs. I can't remember once being disappointed by the atmosphere. I was there for the music, not the antics of the punters

 

[Bozza]

Obviously I understand the frustration, I feel some of it (but probably not the same extent) watching it from a distance as well...

And there's the thing.

Making a post which can be interpreted as "you're wrong - it's all going pretty well" to people who have lived and breathed Brighton & Hove Albion FC for a number of years, investing lots of time and money into the club, is always going to rub some folk up the wrong way, and rightly so, frankly.

I enjoy your contributions on here a lot, but sometimes your failure to "read the room" is quite something.

 

[kevo]

To be fair, we could have Salah playing for us and nothing would change. We no longer make chances to score from! At least last year we made chances

Utter drivel.

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

I don’t get having another team on a Brighton scarf, if I wanted a new Albion scarf I would go into the club shop and buy one, the money then goes to the club and not some dodgy market stool trader type.

Funny how these scarves seem to appear on fans at the Amex when we are playing Liverpool.

I don't think it's a secret that having lost a generation of fans, a lot of ours have 'another' team. And with the season ticket guest tickets, a lot of local Liverpool fans were filling home seats. Not ideal, no, but not much you can do about that unless you only allow supporters who are alive and still going from the Goldstone/Gillingham+Withdean, and those who have been born after 2011 and taken to the Albion before they've had a chance to see City/Chelsea/Liverpool on tv.

Palace fans laugh but their crowd is exactly the same with an extra 10000 who popped up when they got promoted.

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[Brovion]

I don't know why people get so hung up about the half and half scarf. It's the modern day equivalent of the matchday programme- and something you can have a photo with the remember the day.


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I think it's because a scarf is (or was) always something you wore to show your allegiance. Consequently a half-and-half scarf implies that your allegiance is shared between the two teams - and having a split allegiance is an anathema to most regular football fans who are one-club people. A programme has always been seen as more neutral. (They've traditionally always included articles about "Today's Visitors" or suchlike).

 

[John Byrnes Mullet]

I would think BT sport also say we need a drum and some goal music.

 

[BN9 BHA]

I would think BT sport also say we need a drum and some goal music.

I would actually now welcome some goal music at the Amex

 

[southstandandy]

I would actually now welcome some goal music at the Amex

Don't hold your breath. In order for that to happen we would need to score some goals.

 

[Stuart Munday]

I was surprised how many empty seats there were, I thought this would be the highest attended game at the Amex ever. I get people are bored at the moment but the game sold out, loads seemed to have sold on the exchange and there must be loads of neutrals who bought tickets because it’s Liverpool.

Yet looking around the ground there had to be at least 2000 empty seats are people not going and not putting them up for resale.

 

[portlock seagull]

I was surprised how many empty seats there were, I thought this would be the highest attended game at the Amex ever. I get people are bored at the moment but the game sold out, loads seemed to have sold on the exchange and there must be loads of neutrals who bought tickets because it’s Liverpool.

Yet looking around the ground there had to be at least 2000 empty seats are people not going and not putting them up for resale.

Do people even bother to check the ticket exchange is open, it so rarely is for resales?

The problem is the new policy. The club have got it wrong IMO (and at least 2,000 others last Saturday as you allude)

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

Don't hold your breath. In order for that to happen we would need to score some goals.

I think that's what he was getting at!

 

[Seasider78]

I have no comments on the atmosphere but I do wonder about this attitude. Turn it around: why is 11 guys on the pitch required to lift the 30 000 in the stands rather than vice versa? Why are some fans of some teams singing their hearts out even when the game or result is shite?

Tbh I dont think I've ever seen a higher percentage of fans saying "the team need to give me something to cheer about or I'll be quiet" rather than the more common "I want to help and support my team through thick and thin" mentality.

Why do you expect the players (usuaully mercenaries) to fight for you when if you're (many of you have watched Brighton alongside some of the last homo erectus) not going to fight for them?

You think this is a Brighton phenomenon??!!!

When you say ‘I don’t think I have ever seen a higher percentage of fans’ what are you basing this on?

How many PL games have you been to in order to make this assessment? There are plenty of people on here who spend their hard earned home and away following this club who will tell you this is pretty much the situation in PL stadiums up and down the country week in week out.

Pop onto the Everton board and ask them why they are booing their team every week rather than cheering the team out of trouble.

There are plenty of clubs in this division Potter would have been hounded out of if the fans had experienced the same home record. Bar a bit of booing after a frustrating game the fans have stayed behind this team and manager and were chanting for the manager when behind on Saturday.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

With respect to empty seats dotted about the place, I was reminded today, when our nipper tested positive for Covid, that there may be a reason in addition to apathy and PotterOUTitis for this

Hopefully I'll see some of you on Wednesday, Rapid Antigen Test permitting.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I was surprised how many empty seats there were, I thought this would be the highest attended game at the Amex ever. I get people are bored at the moment but the game sold out, loads seemed to have sold on the exchange and there must be loads of neutrals who bought tickets because it’s Liverpool.

Yet looking around the ground there had to be at least 2000 empty seats are people not going and not putting them up for resale.

As I note above, unless the nation has miraculously become 110% immune to Covid, or collectively decided '**** a positive test, and in any case, it's just a mild sort of cold', there may be a very valid reason why individuals couldn't make the 'pool game

 

[WATFORD zero]

With respect to empty seats dotted about the place, I was reminded today, when our nipper tested positive for Covid, that there may be a reason in addition to apathy and PotterOUTitis for this

Hopefully I'll see some of you on Wednesday, Rapid Antigen Test permitting.

Well I won't be there after testing positive yesterday

But at least if I watch from home, I can then start a thread about what I thought of the atmosphere immediately after

 

[Giraffe]

Most games it starts well, but fades when we inevitably miss a few chances. When did we last lead in a game at home? Brentford? I recall the atmosphere being decent enough that day.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Well I won't be there after testing positive yesterday

But at least if I watch from home, I can then start a thread about what I thought of the atmosphere immediately after

I don't think it's on the tellybox is it? Moody stream time

I've been feeling shit for a week but tested negative this morning, albeit early days with the nipper testing positive first thing.

 

[Common as Mook]

Most games it starts well, but fades when we inevitably miss a few chances. When did we last lead in a game at home? Brentford? I recall the atmosphere being decent enough that day.

Absolutely this. Best atmosphere since the opening day and the ground was half full. Score goals = good atmosphere. Not rocket science.