Bruno is a major accident waiting to happen....came close to happening today several times. How Calde doesn't get in ahead of him, I have no idea.
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Bruno and Upson
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BensGrandad
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I cannot understand all the criticism of Bruno for me he does the job adequately and is better defensively and attacking than Calderon and most people conveniently forget that on most occasions when he was out of the side injured the pressure put on our back four nearly always came down our right. Other scouts had spotted the weakness and teams played on it. I am not a statistician to quote games but I remember on many occasion teams attacking Calderon with great success.
Cowfold Seagull
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I actually thought Bruno was ten parts disastrous, with Buckley missing from the starting line-up he seems to consider himself far more of a right-winger than a right-back. He would sprint forward on some ill advised foray deep into the Blackburn half, promptly lose the ball, then lack the speed or energy to get back. Calderon is, for me, a much safer option at right back.
Like you, l thought Matt Upson was decidedly 'iffy' early in the game, but the longer it went on the more he got into it. I thought in the second half he did quite well.
Funny, it always looks like we're more vulnerable with Bruno at RB, but since he's come in and played there, our defensive record has OK. Clean sheets v Yeovil & Blackburn, deflected shot against Watford and a scrappy free kick v Doncaster. Don't forget Calderon was RB against Forest.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
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I agree and I think he is slowly coming back to form. Reading the majority of comments on this thread I'm feeling pretty out of step with most on this.. I'd take Bruno over Calde everytime.
Would that be the Forest that put a couple past Leicester, and Yeovil that are bottom?
blockhseagull
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Baffled by those who seem to think Bruno is a better option than Calde.
The only attribute Bruno has over Calderon is pace, they both have their weaknesses defending but Bruno's poor passing, fancy flicks and inability to track back make Calderon head and shoulders above him as a solid performer.
Calderon was caught out a couple of times last season against pacey wingers such as Zaha but Bruno seems to be outplayed by every winger he plays against.
The only attribute Bruno has over Calderon is pace, they both have their weaknesses defending but Bruno's poor passing, fancy flicks and inability to track back make Calderon head and shoulders above him as a solid performer.
Calderon was caught out a couple of times last season against pacey wingers such as Zaha but Bruno seems to be outplayed by every winger he plays against.
brightonrock
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I was fuming at Bruno's role in the free header for Rhodes. Having bust a gut getting forward he casually jogged back as Lopez sprinted full pelt 70 yards to fill in cover for him. Eventually Bruno got back in position, and Lopez pointed to the guy he'd tracked back, to say "you take him now". Lopez closes down the full back, who passes to Bruno's winger in acres of space, because Bruno is bending over fifteen yards away, pulling his socks up. Cross, header, should've been a goal. If it had gone in there would've been questions of the marking in the middle but Bruno would largely have been to blame because he switched off, even after someone else did his job for him. Lopez was going mental at him which says a lot, he's not the 'shoutiest' player but he was livid, and rightly so.
The first half a dozen games he had for us, Bruno was brilliant. I genuinely can't remember a game since when he hasn't been a liability. Calderon should be in ahead of him on merit atm. A genuine mystery how Bruno keeps getting the nod.
The first half a dozen games he had for us, Bruno was brilliant. I genuinely can't remember a game since when he hasn't been a liability. Calderon should be in ahead of him on merit atm. A genuine mystery how Bruno keeps getting the nod.
jgmcdee
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- Mar 25, 2012
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We were playing with three at the back for most of the game, so I think you can consider it tried. As to its efficacy, I thought that the main reason that Bruno was considered poor was that he was out of his expected position, but for much of the game he was the only real option to get the ball out from the back. Ward looked lost without Lua Lua to pass to, so everything went to the right for much of the game.
ferring seagull
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There is perhaps not that much to choose between them but certainly neither has much pace.
Looking ahead, and if we want to progress, we need to find a right back who can help take the team forward.
Looking ahead, and if we want to progress, we need to find a right back who can help take the team forward.
GoingUp
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Bruno had a shocker, I thought Upson played well.
Im hoping Bruno just has to settle in after being out for awhile, I just hope he doesnt cost us any points whlist setteling in! What pissed me off yesterday was when he lost the ball going foreward, he didnt make a great effort to get back.
Im hoping Bruno just has to settle in after being out for awhile, I just hope he doesnt cost us any points whlist setteling in! What pissed me off yesterday was when he lost the ball going foreward, he didnt make a great effort to get back.
Yes, me as well. Neither are good enough, but Calderon is poor defensively and easily outpaced.
Bruno, as somebody stated earlier in the thread is an accident waiting to happen, but I think is just better than Calderon.
Why Upson is even mentioned is beyond me, I agree he is off form and was disappointing in the first half distribution wise, but provided cover time annd time again. I feel he is comfortably our best defender.
symyjym
Banned
That he does, making him unable to pass the ball down the line, without kicking it into touch, all the more puzzling.
smiler
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It would help if Bruno didn't spend half his time trying to keep his socks up
father_and_son
Well-known member
THIS THIS THIS.... Bruno has made so, so many shocking mistakes and is generally just cruising through the games. 20 mins of brilliance and 70 of indifference is not good enough. How he has kept his starting spot escapes me!
Geestar
New member
Bring back Calde!
The best performances I remember are with Buckley ahead of him. Bruno played quite a few decent through balls at the weekend. He should stick to that, and trying to defend.