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PJ Harvey is a pro-hunting Devon girl. Kirsty MacColl was from Croydon (Dad is Ewen MacColl) and yep, you'd think Beth Orton was a Yankee, especially after the Trailerpark and Central Reservations albums but nope, she's English. Listen to her cover of "wish I'd never seen the sunshine" and her accent comes out loud and clear.
fatbadger
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And she's Irish
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of Irish descent. Not sure she's born there though.
fatbadger
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I think she was born in Co Wicklow. Not sure about the town, though.
Juan Albion
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Time to remember the Justice for Kirsty campaign.
Death and "Justice for Kirsty" campaign
MacColl had a busy, successful year in 2000, with the success of Tropical Brainstorm, as well as her participation in the presentation of a radio programme she had done for the BBC on Cuba. MacColl decided to take a much needed holiday, and she, her partner, musician James Knight, and her sons traveled to Cozumel, Mexico. She intended to introduce her sons during the trip to an activity she loved – scuba diving. On December 18, 2000, she and her sons went diving in Cozumel, in a specific diving area that watercraft were restricted from entering. With the group was a local veteran divemaster, Ivan Diaz. As the group was surfacing from a dive, a speeding powerboat entered the restricted area. MacColl saw the boat coming for her sons. Louis was not in the boat's path, but Jamie was. She was able to push him out of the way (he sustained minor head and rib injuries) but in doing so, she was hit by the boat and killed instantly.
The boat involved in the accident was owned by Mexican supermarket millionaire Guillermo González Nova, who was on board with several members of his family. An employee of Nova's, boathand José Cen Yam, claimed to have been driving the boat at the time that the accident occurred. Several published reports have included accounts from eyewitnesses that have stated Cen Yam was not at the controls; eyewitnesses also indicate that the boat was travelling much faster than the speed of one knot that Nova had claimed. Cen Yam was found guilty of culpable homicide and was sentenced to 2 years 10 months in prison. However, he was allowed under Mexican law to pay a punitive fine of 1034 pesos (about US$90) in lieu of the prison sentence. He was also ordered to pay approximately US $2150 in restitution to MacColl's family, an amount based on his wages. Published reports have included statements from people who spoke to Cen Yam after the accident, claiming Cen Yam had received money for taking the blame for the incident.
MacColl's family launched the Justice For Kirsty campaign in response to the events surrounding her death. Among the group's efforts:
Lawyers for MacColl's family and the group have campaigned for a judicial review into the events surrounding her death. They have been in repeated contact with the Mexican government, and have made an application to the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights.
MacColl's friends and family have been critical of what they have perceived as a lack of cooperation from the Mexican authorities; in May 2006, Emilio Cortez Ramirez, a federal prosecutor in Cozumel, was found liable for breach of authority in conjunction with his handling of the MacColl case.
The BBC has featured a documentary by Olivia Lichtenstein, entitled Who Killed Kirsty MacColl?.
U2 and Bono, who was a friend of MacColl's, spoke about the incident during a concert in Monterrey, Mexico in February 2006. The Mexican government released a statement after the concert indicating they would take action. However, as of the present time, no additional details have come forth.
Death and "Justice for Kirsty" campaign
MacColl had a busy, successful year in 2000, with the success of Tropical Brainstorm, as well as her participation in the presentation of a radio programme she had done for the BBC on Cuba. MacColl decided to take a much needed holiday, and she, her partner, musician James Knight, and her sons traveled to Cozumel, Mexico. She intended to introduce her sons during the trip to an activity she loved – scuba diving. On December 18, 2000, she and her sons went diving in Cozumel, in a specific diving area that watercraft were restricted from entering. With the group was a local veteran divemaster, Ivan Diaz. As the group was surfacing from a dive, a speeding powerboat entered the restricted area. MacColl saw the boat coming for her sons. Louis was not in the boat's path, but Jamie was. She was able to push him out of the way (he sustained minor head and rib injuries) but in doing so, she was hit by the boat and killed instantly.
The boat involved in the accident was owned by Mexican supermarket millionaire Guillermo González Nova, who was on board with several members of his family. An employee of Nova's, boathand José Cen Yam, claimed to have been driving the boat at the time that the accident occurred. Several published reports have included accounts from eyewitnesses that have stated Cen Yam was not at the controls; eyewitnesses also indicate that the boat was travelling much faster than the speed of one knot that Nova had claimed. Cen Yam was found guilty of culpable homicide and was sentenced to 2 years 10 months in prison. However, he was allowed under Mexican law to pay a punitive fine of 1034 pesos (about US$90) in lieu of the prison sentence. He was also ordered to pay approximately US $2150 in restitution to MacColl's family, an amount based on his wages. Published reports have included statements from people who spoke to Cen Yam after the accident, claiming Cen Yam had received money for taking the blame for the incident.
MacColl's family launched the Justice For Kirsty campaign in response to the events surrounding her death. Among the group's efforts:
Lawyers for MacColl's family and the group have campaigned for a judicial review into the events surrounding her death. They have been in repeated contact with the Mexican government, and have made an application to the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights.
MacColl's friends and family have been critical of what they have perceived as a lack of cooperation from the Mexican authorities; in May 2006, Emilio Cortez Ramirez, a federal prosecutor in Cozumel, was found liable for breach of authority in conjunction with his handling of the MacColl case.
The BBC has featured a documentary by Olivia Lichtenstein, entitled Who Killed Kirsty MacColl?.
U2 and Bono, who was a friend of MacColl's, spoke about the incident during a concert in Monterrey, Mexico in February 2006. The Mexican government released a statement after the concert indicating they would take action. However, as of the present time, no additional details have come forth.
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PJ Harvey is a pro-hunting Devon girl. Kirsty MacColl was from Croydon (Dad is Ewen MacColl) and yep, you'd think Beth Orton was a Yankee, especially after the Trailerpark and Central Reservations albums but nope, she's English. Listen to her cover of "wish I'd never seen the sunshine" and her accent comes out loud and clear.
I'm impressed, hats off to our homegrown talent!
These girls have all been so successful in North America, and the yanks would always have you believe (as they themselves do) that everyone famous over there is American.
I've had the pleasure of letting people know otherwise though, that The Stones (yes, even them) and Pink Floyd are British.
Most of them know that The Beatles were ours, the stuff about Liverpool and Merseymania was as loud and clear back then, as the music.
Little known Julianne Regan of All About Eve is worthy of mention. Her voice has always given me goosebumps!
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- Oct 1, 2006
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Well done Juan. Good call.
If anyone has NOT heard of the Beth Gibbons and Rustin Man album Out of Season - you've got to hear it especially the 1st track "mysteries".
Haunting just doesn't do the song justice. It's sublime, it's beautiful, tear-jerkingly so. Like a Sergio Leone landscape.
It's "hairs on the back of your neck" - "my God, that's life-affirmingly good".
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If anyone has NOT heard of the Beth Gibbons and Rustin Man album Out of Season - you've got to hear it especially the 1st track "mysteries".
Haunting just doesn't do the song justice. It's sublime, it's beautiful, tear-jerkingly so. Like a Sergio Leone landscape.
It's "hairs on the back of your neck" - "my God, that's life-affirmingly good".
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My arse..talentless waste of space. Hairdresser music of the worst sort.
Cian
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Most certainly Irish born, lived most of her life here too.
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fair dos. Still a fantastic voice. Hey MYOB, why don't you do an Irish songstress post. You've got Sinead, the Cranberries bird, Mary Margaret O'Hara...
some corking stuff there too.
crodonilson
He/Him
I've just bought the album by Kate Nash and it's f***ing brilliant.
Cian
Well-known member
Cara Dillon and Audrey Gallagher on the divide between the two posts too (Northern Irish).