[Politics] British IS Girl wanting to return to the UK

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Let's go to the bear pit and chat about this like adults.....

If you believe in this.....

Yes, no sympathy or empathy from me.....

Yes, that picture justifies murdering people. Sorry, executing children. Sorry, terrorists

Thank **** we have a sort of parliamentary democracy and don't decide individual issues by referendum.

Hang on....

 

[jamie (not that one)]

I think she’d have quite an interesting story to tell. Of course, a fitting punishment should be administered but her story could well educate others. Even if that story is told from behind bars.
I for one would be willing to hear it.

Spot on.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I think she’d have quite an interesting story to tell. Of course, a fitting punishment should be administered but her story could well educate others. Even if that story is told from behind bars.
I for one would be willing to hear it.

You would have no concerns regarding the frankness, candour and ingenuousness of such a heartfelt tale of woe?

 

[Perfidious Albion]

It is not a question of what we ,or the government think should happen. It is a question of what the law allows. Right now the appeal court rules that she must have the right to appear and fight her case.
We know that sometimes the law can be an ass, but I would rather live in a country subject to the rule of laws than one that does not.
I read that the government are seeking leave to appeal the appeal.

 

[The Clamp]

You would have no concerns regarding the frankness, candour and ingenuousness of such a heartfelt tale of woe?

I would have several concerns about the subject, I’d like to hear the story though.
Of course, part of her story would be the trial and subsequent punishment. All things that might make others stop and think.

 

[marlowe]

Ok, let's not look at the horrors that she did (possibly still does) believe infidels deserve this, lets blank out the innocent lives lots to stupid religious bigotry. I think it is highly relevant, and if you don't that is your opinion, no better or more valid than mine....

The horrors of religious ideology should never be forgotten or airbrushed from our memories. They are sick and disgusting, everytime i see images like that I remember how sick,stupid and pointless it all is. Sometimes people are just bad, not all them can be understood or helped with therapy and, trying to understanding where they came from at the point in time.....

If you see that image at any age and think, yeah that's right, he deserved that, I can believe in a cause that will do that to another human. To me you ARE BEYOND HELP REASONING & UNDERSTANDING, oh they were young is a lame excuse, that they will cling to as a defence, that we give them to attempt to understand where they come from, when it is pointless....

just my thoughts, i am no expert, just a human, who could not buy into or understand why...

Why are you associating that image with her? Are you now holding her accountable for all the atrocities committed in the name of that religion? Are all those who follow the Catholic or Protestant faith accountable for the atrocities that happened in Northern Ireland. Are all Irish Catholics accountable for the bombings on English soil?

That image has nothing to do with Shamima Begum. When you say "let's look at the horrors that she did"
ok why don't we? What horrors did she commit exactly?

 

[ATFC Seagull]

I think any arguments over her specifically are complete deflections from what is a very important legal issue. Personally I have absolutely no sympathy for her and don't care whether SHE is brought back here, keeps her citizenship, whatever. I don't think she deserves any sympathy.

But the process for which her citizenship was stripped does, for me, set quite a dangerous precedent. She was not a citizen of Bangladesh, but was ENTITLED to be one. By stripping her of her citizenship, we are in effect saying that there are degrees of British citizenship - and that those entitled to citizenship from somewhere else are not as British as those who aren't.

My sons are entitled to be Irish citizens, although they are not. Obviously they are not going to go and join a horrendous terrorist cult so I appreciate this is pure conjecture - but the legal implication of this is that, despite being born in Britain and (probably) growing up to consider themselves British first and foremost, they could be deported to Ireland where they might never have been (ok, again they have been there) or have any connections on the decision of a judge or politician in the future.

 

[Chicken Run]

I think any arguments over her specifically are complete deflections from what is a very important legal issue. Personally I have absolutely no sympathy for her and don't care whether SHE is brought back here, keeps her citizenship, whatever. I don't think she deserves any sympathy.

But the process for which her citizenship was stripped does, for me, set quite a dangerous precedent. She was not a citizen of Bangladesh, but was ENTITLED to be one. By stripping her of her citizenship, we are in effect saying that there are degrees of British citizenship - and that those entitled to citizenship from somewhere else are not as British as those who aren't.

My sons are entitled to be Irish citizens, although they are not. Obviously they are not going to go and join a horrendous terrorist cult so I appreciate this is pure conjecture - but the legal implication of this is that, despite being born in Britain and (probably) growing up to consider themselves British first and foremost, they could be deported to Ireland where they might never have been (ok, again they have been there) or have any connections on the decision of a judge or politician in the future.

I bet your sons turn Irish on the 17th March [emoji23]

 

[NooBHA]

Ok, let's not look at the horrors that she did (possibly still does) believe infidels deserve this, lets blank out the innocent lives lots to stupid religious bigotry. I think it is highly relevant, and if you don't that is your opinion, no better or more valid than mine....

The horrors of religious ideology should never be forgotten or airbrushed from our memories. They are sick and disgusting, everytime i see images like that I remember how sick,stupid and pointless it all is. Sometimes people are just bad, not all them can be understood or helped with therapy and, trying to understanding where they came from at the point in time.....

If you see that image at any age and think, yeah that's right, he deserved that, I can believe in a cause that will do that to another human. To me you ARE BEYOND HELP REASONING & UNDERSTANDING, oh they were young is a lame excuse, that they will cling to as a defence, that we give them to attempt to understand where they come from, when it is pointless....

just my thoughts, i am no expert, just a human, who could not buy into or understand why...

I looked only at the first line of your post then stopped because I don't wish to discuss Two wrongs don't make a right

I find that image gruesome and I do not come on to a football website to be subjected to it

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-47229181

Just about to give birth. Didn't hear evidence of any regrets but don't know the levels of treatment/abuse and brainwashing been subjected to out there

Welcome back or treat as hostile?

A disgrace, should NEVER have been allowed back into this country
Regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Who's funding this challenge? Disgusting waste of tax payers money
Regards
DF

 

[nicko31]

A disgrace, should NEVER have been allowed back into this country
Regards
DF

Rest assured Ppf she'll be staying with us and not sharing her love with 27 others. Good to see you've found something else to get angry about

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Rest assured Ppf she'll be staying with us and not sharing her love with 27 others. Good to see you've found something else to get angry about

Who are the people working behind the scenes to make this happen , give me a B
Regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

If she comes back, life in prison, without any parole, with the opportunity to interrogate her. She may have useful information.

Regards
DF

 

[LamieRobertson]

Pretty pink fairy.

Now that did make me laugh...very generous of the old git

 

[Chicken Run]

If she comes back, life in prison, without any parole, with the opportunity to interrogate her. She may have useful information.

Totally agree Dave, preferably at an off grid Black Ops Steve where water boarding hasn’t been banned!

 

[sydney]

I bet your sons turn Irish on the 17th March [emoji23]

that is racist you cock sucker..!!

 

[Chicken Run]

that is racist you cock sucker..!!

Fanny licker would be a more accurate description but I get your point.

 

[sydney]

Fanny licker would be a more accurate description but I get your point.

oh yeah well i could blither on about what a racist **** you are but we'll just let it go i suppose .....it's ok mate , the Irish are fair game ...obviously.

 

[Chicken Run]

oh yeah well i could blither on about what a racist **** you are but we'll just let it go i suppose .....it's ok mate , the Irish are fair game ...obviously.

It would be unlikely that you would ever blither on....